Rover taken over by the Chinese

daz500 · Post by **daz500** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:22 pm

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/ ... ory=585075

I hope I can still get spares for when my t16 turbo goes pop

simonptomcat · Post by **simonptomcat** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:38 pm

to be honest i think this will be the end of rover as we know it, no more MG's no more Xpower nothing, all gonna be gas driven little tiny things!

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:47 pm

simonptomcat wrote:to be honest i think this will be the end of rover as we know it, no more MG's no more Xpower nothing, all gonna be gas driven little tiny things!

Dont be so bloody synical. Read it properly

DanB · Post by **DanB** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:57 pm

Why oh why does this keep being said.
It's on the news and it's wrong.
It's a new company that is being set up by Rover and SAIC.
Rover is still owned by PVH and Longbridge is still owned by PVH.

Post by **SubCat001** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:21 pm

Interesting. Personally if it mean more money for MG-R then the better. MG-R has a lot of talented engineers & designers under its belt. Hopefully now tey will get the money needed to develop the model range.

Not so sure about some of the cars they proclaim as being "turkeys"

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:46 pm

SubCat001 wrote:Not so sure about some of the cars they proclaim as being "turkeys"

Too right, i was speaking to my dad about this on the phone today, its weird because we have had ARG products since produced (an MG Metro from 1985, an Ambassador before that, MG Maestro from 1998 to date) and none have been bad car's and in the case of the Maestro, the best all rounder. It's not like we havent driven anything else either to come to that conclusion. Ask any owner who gives two hoots and they'll tell you its the fun to drive nature that never fails to put a smile on your face thats part of it, the other is the reliabilty. Yes, reliable! No major problems in over 20 years of ownership.

Motoring/general press seems to be taken as gospel, such as this article here, which isn't a takeover bid at all. Its the formation of a new company to produce mid-ranged car's. If people care to investigate you'll see that they are affiliated with VW and GM. I see this as a good thing all round, securing jobs within MGRover and its suppliers, allowing them to develop new cars to be competitive, and hopefully, continued parts supply for the older cars which continue to solider on.

Gareth

DanK · Post by **DanK** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:06 pm

More about it in the link in this thread from a few days ago

http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=22378

mach1rob · Post by **mach1rob** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:54 pm

Hmmmmm...... well for a journalist he aint that good :oops:

stupid journo wrote:"My favourite Rover was the BR4 rally car, and there was the MG we had at Le Mans a couple of years back.

BR4?? Never heard of 1! Now 6R4 maybe

Yes I know he was quoting Jonny Herbert, but I doubt he'd of got it wrong!

ss1boy · Post by **ss1boy** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:09 pm

well, if it stops rover going bust its got to be a good thing. Shame its not a deal with a british company tho. I doubt they will stop making MG's ect.. I think if anything with exstra money they are more likely to build better and more sporty cars. Who knows

daz500 · Post by **daz500** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:38 pm

DanK wrote:More about it in the link in this thread from a few days ago

http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=22378

but your thread was a bit dull

lol

DanK · Post by **DanK** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:50 pm

That's Chris's fault

Post by **SubCat001** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:51 am

Unfortunately the tripple M cars have never been able to shake there initial bad press with regards build. It soon sorted and a Montego is a better all rounder than its contemparies(sierra & cavalier), The thing is even the R8s have some how aquired an reputation as being carp!! Not sure how as they where class leading upon there release.

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:08 am

SubCat001 wrote:Unfortunately the tripple M cars have never been able to shake there initial bad press with regards build. It soon sorted and a Montego is a better all rounder than its contemparies(sierra & cavalier), The thing is even the R8s have some how aquired an reputation as being carp!! Not sure how as they where class leading upon there release.

It's simple. The press got into the habit of slaggin BL car's in the 70's, they couldnt change their tune and actually say that they were good car's because people dont wanna hear that. I blame the press for MGRover's current position to some extent.

MGJohn · Post by **MGJohn** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:54 am

MGTurbo wrote:I blame the press for MGRover's current position to some extent.

So do I Gareth - and then some ... :rant:

Above all, I blame the 'Jobs-for-life' BBC! :rant:

They'll be alright to the last man and woman - ever funded by us via the TV-Licence -Tax. :rant:

They really should know better ... they really should. Very

MGJohn · Post by **MGJohn** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:56 am

SubCat001 wrote:Unfortunately the tripple M cars have never been able to shake there initial bad press with regards build. It soon sorted and a Montego is a better all rounder than its contemparies(sierra & cavalier), The thing is even the R8s have some how aquired an reputation as being carp!! Not sure how as they where class leading upon there release.

They're Rovers - stands to reason - read it somewhere! Must be right - saw it in print.

WayneH · Post by **WayneH** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:40 pm

Rover has a history of buying a shitbox, sticking a bit of wood on it and selling it for three grand too much

I think that is very unfair!!!

I also think the press have a lot to blame for Rovers demise over the last few years...

Hyper · Post by **Hyper** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:56 pm

The name Rover has become synonamous with all the Leyland sheds that were nails - Allaggro, Maxi, Marina, Ital etc, because Rover are the last of the major British manufacturers they've unfairly inherited the bad reputation

R

Hyper · Post by **Hyper** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:02 pm

WayneH wrote:
Rover has a history of buying a shitbox, sticking a bit of wood on it and selling it for three grand too much

I think that is very unfair!!!

I also think the press have a lot to blame for Rovers demise over the last few years...

Plastic wood IS very sad, it should have stopped along with sticky back vinyl in the late seventies. IMO it doesn't make your dash look classy, in fact quite the reverse.
R

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:21 pm

I've never seen plastic wood in Rovers.

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:53 pm

i assume he means the printed wood effect surface. Like the mk3 200's had. By any means wood is old hat.

bgunn · Post by **bgunn** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:29 pm

Gary wrote:i assume he means the printed wood effect surface. Like the mk3 200's had. By any means wood is old hat.

It depends upon how it's designed. Would you say that the 2001> Range Rover has a dash that's "old hat" then?

Brian.

MGTurbo · Post by **MGTurbo** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:47 pm

Keenan wrote:Get rid of the wood, mock carbon fibre is wikid. Ripspeed have got a special offer on at the moment too.

Keenan.

Hmm ok if you like your fake looking carbon fibre to look like grey and black squares printed on vinyl.

Hyper · Post by **Hyper** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:17 pm

I haven't seen the wooden dash in the 2001 Range Rover, so can't comment but IMO wood/veneer interiors generally look better on very expensive and classic vehicles but cheap and nasty on mid-upper range production cars. I prefer quality, good looking texture to plastic look-a-like wood.
R

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:00 pm

bgunn wrote:
Gary wrote:i assume he means the printed wood effect surface. Like the mk3 200's had. By any means wood is old hat.

It depends upon how it's designed. Would you say that the 2001> Range Rover has a dash that's "old hat" then?

Brian.

Yes, wood is wood regardless of the car its in, its all old hat. The dash itself in the new range rover isn't old but then again i said the wood effect not the actual dash itself.