Engine priblems HELP!

aspri11a · Post by **aspri11a** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:18 pm

Does anyone know where i can source a VVC engine or get one rebuilt?

My car has done 48k but cut out the other day and is now only firing on 3 cylinders! Has anyone ever had this problem?

C2K · Post by **C2K** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:35 pm

What's wrong with fixing it? It could be running on three cyls for a number of reasons. Elaborate a little bit on what you've tried.

beeniemac · Post by **beeniemac** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:53 am

Whoa, don't go jumping in with all your feet at once, it might be as simple as a duff plug!

David220 · Post by **David220** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:51 pm

Slight overreaction me thinks!

As said, could just be a knackered spark plug, HT lead or anything simple like that!

I'd try all those 1st before getting a new engine

TonedefBRM · Post by **TonedefBRM** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:49 pm

Having just been quoted 1395 +vat for a recon on an exchange basic or a rebuild for 1100 +vat,

deffo worth having you engined checked out proper before going down the reconn route !

aspri11a · Post by **aspri11a** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:43 pm

had it checked out and its a no go for repair :cry:

i have sourced an mg zr 160 engine. I need to know if it will fit in my coupe? I know its essentially the same engine but is it a case of a straight swap or do i need a new manifold or anything like that. What about ECU and have the mounts changed?

any help would be much appreciated as i need to get the engine before its sold, if it will fit.

rover400turbo · Post by **rover400turbo** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:42 pm

What is the reason or damage caused ?

According to the guy that checked it ?

aspri11a · Post by **aspri11a** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:42 pm

they cant be sure without stripping the engine, but possibly the timing belt has slipped, cambelt has snapped, head gasket has blown??? there are metal deposits in oil and engine bay and its only firing on 3 cylinders. it is thought to have dropped a couple of valves too.

gav2pac · Post by **gav2pac** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:42 pm

id deff go to someone else for a second opinion

Podman · Post by **Podman** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:25 am

sounds a bit dubious for an engine athts doen so little. "nd opinion may be worthwhile

David220 · Post by **David220** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:37 am

Who checked it for you because if they suggested that it could be either a snapped cambelt or a blown head gasket then I'd be dubious as these both show completely different symptoms!

If the timing belt has snapped it will be obvious as if you take its cover off it will be snapped. Correct me if I'm wrong but if the timing belt has snapped and bent some valves it won't run at all, nevermind on three cylinders.

Dave

Post by **Cableguy** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:47 am

David220 wrote:Who checked it for you because if they suggested that it could be either a snapped cambelt or a blown head gasket then I'd be dubious as these both show completely different symptoms!

If the timing belt has snapped it will be obvious as if you take its cover off it will be snapped. Correct me if I'm wrong but if the timing belt has snapped and bent some valves it won't run at all, nevermind on three cylinders.

Dave

May run on 2 if just one of the cam belts have snapped ? The VVC has a second cam belt ?

Podman · Post by **Podman** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:27 am

if it had jumped a tooht on the belt it would more than likely be a bit ill. All repairable thouhg, should be cheper than a new engine. Replace the head at worst I would imagine, which would then change the head gasket at teh same tim eof course. Job done !

David220 · Post by **David220** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:58 pm

hb_thomas wrote:if it had jumped a tooht on the belt it would more than likely be a bit ill. All repairable thouhg, should be cheper than a new engine. Replace the head at worst I would imagine, which would then change the head gasket at teh same tim eof course. Job done !

My thoughts exactly...gonna be cheaper to repair than get a new engine I would have thought.

As long as you go to a decent garage that you can trust they'll be able to sort it out for you no problem.

Post by **Punx0r** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:21 pm

Cableguy wrote:May run on 2 if just one of the cam belts have snapped ? The VVC has a second cam belt ?

Only if the second, little cambelt snapped. The main one, which IMO would be more likely, would be end-of-play like most engines.

"the timing belt has slipped, cambelt has snapped"

As long as the garage didn't say that, because timing belt and cambelt are the same thing!

If there is metal in the oil then you'd want to have the block out and sump of and checked. Only cost is labour though. Can't see why there'd be metal in oil unless you'd had a fairly serious existing problem before the cambelt went.

If you can get that ZR engine for a decent price it might well be cheaper than paying for your lump to be rebuilt (quite a bit of labour). Some parts will be a little different, but what's different can be swapped over from your existing engine. It will fundamentally be the same engine. You might get a few more horses to boot.

Agree on getting a second opinion unless you really know and trust this place.

Stevo135+ · Post by **Stevo135+** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:05 pm

Most engines are nearly always repairable at a cost, unless it has blown a hole in the block or has pourous castings etc. Even then it's amazing how with enough time and money that 50yr old+ car engines can be re-built and worn parts repaired, re-ground, re-machined, or re-manufactured as when new engines are not available you dont have many alternatives.

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Engine priblems HELP!

Engine priblems HELP!

will zr 160 engine fit?