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Welcome to the 200 club. Well there abouts :D

Nice colour for the 420 and she looks clean and rust free :mrgreen:
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You won't use first so much when the MBC is on :)
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oh VERY nice andy :D

gutted to see you've gave up on the 220 but damn what a reason for doing it :D

sure dan will put it to good use :D:D

sit at 70 in 3rd then go though the gears ;), rarther impressive to say the least :D
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Thinking about it the 420 has way shorter gears than a 220 turbo doesnt it, maybe thats why it feels like it pulls more in gear?
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Very Nice Matey. Glad to see you got one :D
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:P what bits have you taken off the 220 and what needs doing to it andy?
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Rich_1988 wrote::P what bits have you taken off the 220 and what needs doing to it andy?
Its already sold , get ya greasy hands off ! :P
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Cableguy wrote: Its already sold , get ya greasy hands off ! :P
Bugger :P oh well, been looking for a 220 for a while now dont seem to be any around at all :(, will only cost me £85 to add it to my insurance policy when i do find one though :)
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Red line in 1st :oops:
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rover220 wrote:seems to go pretty well too 8)
haha, how did you find that?

Dan, I only did that for video purposes. On the drive home, after I'd had a few blasts in 1st, I started to go easy on it. There's actually no need to boot it in first, as even if you take it easy (1/2 throttle, changing at 4k), you still get a very nice kick from the turbo.

Thanks to everyone for the kind words :)

Mark, the 420 has nice long gears actually... 40 in 1st, 70 in 2nd... I love 5th gear though, what a lovely cruiser this car is. Sitting at 70, the engine is just ticking over at 2600rpm, lol.

Tony, it was a very dark blue ST170 with a Nurburgring sticker on the bootlid. Either way, he wasn't a happy chappy :D

Mike (matthews2k), thanks mate. I think we'll have to meet up soon and get a few pictures of them together.
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wont be a 420 box with them ratios
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rover220 wrote:wont be a 420 box with them ratios
Didn't think it was.

Sound like a Ti box? I was going to say a Vitty box, but a friend said that his Vitty does 30 in 1st and 65 in 2nd.
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coupe turbo box most likely.

look for the sticker
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Ti is the same as 420 which is about 62 real speed in second, 87 real speed in 3rd. 220 turbo is like 70+ then 105ish.

Nice car though Andy, get a bigger turbo and a decent FMIC.
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Ohhh cool. I always thought the Ti boxes were longer ratios.

Cheers Mark, don't worry, they're on their way ;) Not for a few months, but they'll be here eventually. Just sorting the handling and brakes out first.
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420T's use the same boxes as 220T's. Mine is 40/70/110 indicated and on GPS my speedo is pretty much spot on.
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agw_01 wrote:A few pictures with the Hairpins after a wash


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JamesCoupe wrote:420T's use the same boxes as 220T's. Mine is 40/70/110 indicated and on GPS my speedo is pretty much spot on.
Bloody hell, i used to preach this also, and then someone 'corrected' me, does anyone know the definitavie answer???
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My car was std with about 53k on it when I bought it, so I doubt very much the box has been changed.
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i know from a gearbox expert, these boxes are NOT the same

420 should be shorter
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why change the box though in a car identical apart from the boot?
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southside wrote:why change the box though in a car identical apart from the boot?
because they did.

the car appeals to different people compared to the coupe, coupe box should be a K7 and a 420 should be a K6 box
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I'll have a check tomorrow.

Where abouts is the code usually?
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I'd like to know too because my ratio's are pretty shorty I think...
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look at top of gearbox then look one space towards the front of the car...will probably be covered in grime.
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So dan let me get this straight:

You have one silver 220 and now your going to buy AGW 01s.

Mmm can we change your screen name from Cableguy to The wedge collector :P
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ishturbs wrote:Mmm can we change your screen name from Cableguy to The wedge collector :P
:lol:

Forget the first part, just call him 'wedge'
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rover220 wrote:look at top of gearbox then look one space towards the front of the car...will probably be covered in grime.
I cleaned it the other day when I had the rad out... couldn't see any writing on it at all :?
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Looks spot on with the hairpins alloys on fella 8)
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MarkCoupe wrote:
JamesCoupe wrote:420T's use the same boxes as 220T's. Mine is 40/70/110 indicated and on GPS my speedo is pretty much spot on.
Bloody hell, i used to preach this also, and then someone 'corrected' me, does anyone know the definitavie answer???
I know of 3 420 Gsi T's which all had the long ratios and 1 Gsi Sport T which had the short ratios.

But knowing Rover it probably depended on what was in stock at the time :wink:

Looks good anyhow :thumbup:

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iainp wrote:
MarkCoupe wrote:
JamesCoupe wrote:420T's use the same boxes as 220T's. Mine is 40/70/110 indicated and on GPS my speedo is pretty much spot on.
Bloody hell, i used to preach this also, and then someone 'corrected' me, does anyone know the definitavie answer???
I know of 3 420 Gsi T's which all had the long ratios and 1 Gsi Sport T which had the short ratios.

But knowing Rover it probably depended on what was in stock at the time :wink:

Looks good anyhow :thumbup:

Iain
I wonder if it was early cars that received shorter ratios?? I am sure Leo's has/had the shorter ratios?

Looks great in the pics 8)
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Mike (matthews2k), thanks mate. I think we'll have to meet up soon and get a few pictures of them together.
Sounds good matey. I have to say it looks very clean :D Ive got loads to do on mine but im waiting for summer. Fit the spats,
Two front wings and loads of little bits and bobs. As you know from
when you saw it last.

The water pump went the other week i was gutted :cry:
Every bolt snapped but pulled my finger out and fixed it.
So mite so the same to the 220 in the summer.

The better brakes i bought for the NASP will they fit the turbo or are the turbo brake discs bigger :?
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Dave, Iain and James, thanks guys. Glad you like it :)

Mike, damn, that's a gutter about the waterpump. Still, glad you fixed it and I hope you fix the 220 up. It'd be a shame to send another to the scrappers, especially the good condition it's in.

Yep, the discs and pads will go straight on the 420. I reckon it'll look smart 8)
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