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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... 0&t=103468

Man i hate this government.

isnt the whole purpose of a "safety" van or police to slow the drivers down in the first place?

The pensioner managed to do this before the drivers got to police, then thats better cause they are speeding less!!

I really cant see the reason for banning him from driving. What about if he held up a sign saying "Slow down, accident black spot ahead" because isnt that where the police are meant to set up speed traps, erm sorry i mean money traps anyway.

That's so true of the state of the country today! Un-fing beleavable!!

It just goes to prove they're out there to make money, not to make the roads a safer place They should be grateful some pensioner did their job for them so all they had to do was stand around and do nothing, instead of catching burgulars, muggers, murders and rapists

And as for the old boy loosing his licence WTF?

What about those handmade speed limit signs in people gardens?

Where speeding is in a little vilage, the police set up a safety camera and all the motorists slow down when they see the make ya own speed limit sign.

Do they then go and ban all these people who made the signs from driving?

I THINK NOT! This is just absolutely utterly riduculous treatment of a man who was doing what he thought was right. SLOWING CARS DOWN!

The government simply shouldn't ALLOW for this sort of thing to happen. The guy probably lives off his pension - how on earth is he going to be able to defend himself in court? He probably couldnt afford the lawyers fees.

The Queen still has absolute power over the courts doesn't she? So what the hell is she going to do about this? Naff all.

Well the Tory's have said if they win the next election, they will scrap ALL speed cameras and dig up all speed humps.

Probably a vote winning lie, but if they just removed all the partnership vans, and cameras that arent on blackspots - it would be a start.

I cant think of any of the Avon&Somerset cameras being in anything but money earning spots.

Where as i live on the most dangerous road in North Somerset, everytime it rains 1 or 2 cars go flying off the road on the 2 sharp bends the road has. Not a camera or monitoring in sight !

Quite a controversial subject this, some relevant points made in the article both for and against.

Perhaps the Police let themselves down by insisting that the speed traps are for the safety of the public, when we all know it is so they can prove and ensure a prosecution against someone breaking the law and punnish offenders.

We all probably get a bit ate up about this kind of subject because we all love cars on here and speed traps affect us all and we dont consider ourselves to be commiting crime even when we speed, but lets face it, we do!!! Everyone speeds, me included, and yes I try to avoid cameras, but I would have to hold my hands up if I got caught as I would have been breaking the law!

And I guess its fair to say the old fella was helping others avaid the appropriate evidence to be collected to prosecute the guilty parties. Kind of like "aiding and abetting". But I do recon the action against him was unjust and harsh considering all he did was warn people of dangers ahead. Especially when police have to paint cameras yellow as mentioned and fore warn drivers of camera areas anyway with the appropriate signs!!!

Police recon that prosecution and the issuing of fines and penalties is the best way to get offenders to slow down, if we warn drivers of speed traps then I guess we are shooting ourselves in the foot by letting speeders get away with their offenses. Lets face it, these offenders that we warn may be the ones that one day kill one of our loved ones!

Its very contraversial, and I dont agree the old fella should have been issued the punishment he had been given, but at the same time, I can see that the police have a job to do and we shouldnt always look to blame them so quickly. We only feel victimised becasue at the end of the day, most of us speed!!!

And no, I am not a rozzer, nor do I know any, these are just my views, its a tricky subject, but I guess at the end of the day, yeah, the punishment was unjust, just wanted to make some points alog the way!!!

Yes we all speed, well we control our cars over the speed written on a road sign.

A number that is made up by some local council person, or plucked out of the air it seem 90% of the time.

The whole system is flawed from the start, and all it does is make every driver in the UK feel like a criminal. There is no law and justise in the process.

If all drivers caught speeding were doing 10mph over the signed speed limit and the speed limit reflects the road and it surroundings - then its fair and tough take the conviction.

But when a camera is on a dual carraigeway in the middle of nowhere with a 40 limit on the road, ummm

At a lot of the camera locations in my area, the speed limit had been reduced by 10mph, for no good reason after many years of safe motoring at the previous limit - but then after a few weeks of the new limit a van or camera turns up !!

yeah that happens a lot by me drop the limit and whack a van on it!
i parked in front of one once purposley just to pee them off
it worked they got out and politley pointed out if it didnt shift it......well you can guess the rest it involved a truck and a big payment for my car!

but i just think it isnt fair on motorways there built for speed if they involved it into test, there would be less accidents .we could all drive really really fast lol

Thats the same as my area!

The whole of the A12 has been made 10mph lower. and then the lower speed limits have been extended further.

Now we are driving along roads with nothing either side, the lines for overtaking down the middle and a stupid 30mph zone!

I also hate cameras on duel carriageways and motorways, i got 3 points for doing just 80mph on a motorway

i thought it was a legal requirement now that all speed traps (trap being the oprative word) have a sign warning drivers that they are there!

Drew

This is just down the road from me and there is never a sign saying that there is a "speed trap" there as is required by law, but I have seen this guy holding the sign......To be honest he look like he shouldn't be driving anyway!!

steve-o wrote:And I guess its fair to say the old fella was helping others avaid the appropriate evidence to be collected to prosecute the guilty parties. Kind of like "aiding and abetting"

An interesting outlook but if you look at it he isn't actually assisting people to break or avaid the law in anyway as no one has done. In fact he's doing quite the opposite. As paul says he is doing the job the speed camera should be without anybody suffering. Speed cameras dont prevent people from breaking the law, but this gentleman has done
This chap as been treated appalingly for such an insignifcant action. There are literally murderers who get off lighter.

Seems like this story is perhaps not telling the whole story, it may not even be true.
There is no link between informing people of a speed camera and the pensioner driving. The story says he wasn't driving at the time.
So why ban him from driving, there is no link.
Even the police can't do that. You can't have your driving license taken off you for doing some unrelated "offence".
That's like me having my license taken off me for hitting someone.

I think this story is possibly not true or it has been stretched from the truth.

I live in France and drove over to the UK last weekend with the girlfriend and 2 kids, on the return (Bank Holiday Monday) I was about 100k from Paris on the motorway, I tend to stick to the speed limits when carrying passengers or if the traffic is heavy (Mr. Sensible).
I was on a 4 lane open stretch of MW bang on the speed limit 130kph when I’m chased and flagged down by 2 policemen on bikes and escorted off the MW to a toll station where the police have an office set-up.
They told me I was doing 141kph followed by “do you have 90 eurosâ€

Drew wrote:i thought it was a legal requirement now that all speed traps (trap being the oprative word) have a sign warning drivers that they are there!

Drew

Thats what I thought..

I once was driving along a road and a kid was holding up a sign warning of a speed trap ahead. I slowed down (not by much as I try not to speed) and went by the speed trap. Then just past the police (but out of sight of them) was another kid holding a bucket and a sign saying "tips please".
Cracked me up...

Oh, and I dont see how they justified banning him. he wasn't committing an offense that was anything to do with him driving a car.

Sheaf wrote:I once was driving along a road and a kid was holding up a sign warning of a speed trap ahead. I slowed down (not by much as I try not to speed) and went by the speed trap. Then just past the police (but out of sight of them) was another kid holding a bucket and a sign saying "tips please".
Cracked me up...

LOL... now that is an idea

Just read this....I am not too bothered about the old fart losing his license, what I am p!ssed off about is THAT I PAY TAXES TO FUND SUCH A STUPID TRIAL