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Rover T-Series DOHC

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:47 pm
by drslashers
:? Please can anyone help?! :?

I am building a kit car, and sadly the manufacturer has just gone into liquidation, so I am left with few many people to ask advice from.

I am told that my engine is a T-series DOHC 2.0l injection.

Is there any way of checking exactly what variant it is?

I need two things:

1) The overall layout of the engine eg schematic. Sometimes the build manual isn't clear (eg "attach fuel line to engine" ... which of the three near identical tubes does it go into!!)

2) to know what Rover models will have a nice easy idiot proof Haynes manual with some info on the T series. Be nice to know what bits do what etc etc!

If you can help at all, please let me know.

Ta

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:58 pm
by calibrax
You want the T-Series manual... here :

http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=28030

also lots of info in the "stickys" section...

http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=43

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:58 pm
by C2K
AFAIK no Haynes covered the T series, but you should download RAVE from the forum off here - it will elaborate on any fine detail of the engine you need to know.

The variant of the engine. Well there's two main types - wasted spark, or original distributor spark. 600/800's had no oil cooler on the back of the block but had a deeper sump instead. Still the same engine mechanically though. :)

Welcome to RT.

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:34 pm
by SubCat001
C2K wrote:AFAIK no Haynes covered the T series,
The 800 manual covers the T series. But as has been said the Rave manual is far better.

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:55 pm
by Scott
the haynes manual for the mk2 (91 onwards) rover 800 (inc T series) leaves a lot to be desired. It treis to cover 3 engines in one manual, and fails misreably...

tbh, its a fairly basic straigh forward engine, with no stupid surprises along the way. looking at the engine, filtered (inline) fuel under pressure goes in at the right hand side, into the rail, and is regulated by the FPR at the end, and that pipe going downards is the return to the tank. FPR also has a little vac pipe leading to the plenum...

There are only a few minor variations on the T series, relating to ignition componentry (and associated ECU/Flywheel), otherwise the block/innards/head are all the same (again with minor detail difference for turbo models).

considering more than half the forum have T series engines, youll get most of the info you need from here.

is it a nasp or turbo? dizzy cap or no dizzy cap? what does the left hand side engine mount look like, might tell us which car it came from.

Re: Rover T-Series DOHC

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:15 am
by MGJohn
drslashers wrote::? Please can anyone help?! :?

I am building a kit car, and sadly the manufacturer has just gone into liquidation, so I am left with few many people to ask advice from.

I am told that my engine is a T-series DOHC 2.0l injection.

Is there any way of checking exactly what variant it is?

I need two things:

1) The overall layout of the engine eg schematic. Sometimes the build manual isn't clear (eg "attach fuel line to engine" ... which of the three near identical tubes does it go into!!)

2) to know what Rover models will have a nice easy idiot proof Haynes manual with some info on the T series. Be nice to know what bits do what etc etc!

If you can help at all, please let me know.

Ta
Whereabouts are you located? A glance under the bonnet of any T series engined car will save you lots of time question wise. make a list of what you need to know. If the owner is familiar with the various bits and bobs they can be easily pointed out. Take a digital camera and record all the locations you need to know. No camera, pencil sketches and make notes....

In my experience, the Rover T16 engines in all their various forms are one of the most straightforward DOHC 16valve motors ever produced.

You can pick up a R820, R825 R827 Haynes manual off ebay for a few pounds. My early edition has fine quality photographs. Later ones on cheaper paper are not so good. They are useful but a guided tour of a T16 engine compartment by someone who knows what's what will be most beneficial for your project.
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:06 am
by syzsounds
C2K wrote: 800's had no oil cooler on the back of the block but had a deeper sump instead. Still the same engine mechanically though. :)

Welcome to RT.
One exception is the M series turbo that has the oil cooler at the front , of no use whatsoever , just thought i'd say ...

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:31 pm
by drslashers
C2K wrote:AFAIK no Haynes covered the T series, but you should download RAVE from the forum off here - it will elaborate on any fine detail of the engine you need to know.

The variant of the engine. Well there's two main types - wasted spark, or original distributor spark. 600/800's had no oil cooler on the back of the block but had a deeper sump instead. Still the same engine mechanically though. :)

Welcome to RT.

Many thanks to those who have replied!


Where can I download the RAVE manual? (wierd name, imagine it has nothing to do with big sheds, illicit drugs and partygoers!!)

Thanks also to Calibrax: Does it matter that this link covers the Turbo model? Mine is not turbo ... just plain injection. Is there a copy of the overhaul manual AKM 6766 listed in the 620 supplement?

How do I tell wasted spark vs original distributor spark ... but more to the point its probably not necessary ... all I am looking at is gettting all the plumbing correct and an engine to push me motor (a Caterham replica)

Finally in many threads it talks about T16 rather than T series ... are they one and the same (as in is T16 synonymous with T-Series engines)

Thanks one and all.

Doc

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:44 pm
by uusmatt

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:58 pm
by drslashers
Many thanks

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:42 pm
by Punx0r
Yes, T16 = T-series. They only did a 16 valve version, so nice and simple. I think there are some minor difference with the nasp engines: lack of cam sensor? rad fans controlled differently?

Wasted spark/dissy is easy, just look for either a distributor cap on the right hand end of the cylinder head, or a coil pack bolted in a similar position but lower down.

If neither are present then check the right hand end of the exhaust cam (front). if it sticks out the side of the head looking like something (rotor arm) would fit onto it then it's a dissy. If nothing pokes out and there's just a metal cap/plug in the side of the head where the end of the cam would be then it's a wasted spark.

The basic engines are the same though, so you could pick whichever system you'd prefer and fit/remove parts to suit...

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:17 am
by BlueRover
Rave: It's just that we do and Rover knew it.

In standard form a very undertuned and reliable engine.

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:32 pm
by batesy71
Haynes did do a manual for the T-series.
The manual for the Mk2 400 (1995 on) focuses on the T as well as the diesel and K's.
I have one of these manuals and I think it covers the T, & 400, quite nicely.

Re: Rover T-Series DOHC

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:37 am
by talkingcars
drslashers wrote:........I am building a kit car, and sadly the manufacturer has just gone into liquidation, ....................
That is frustrating, which manufactrer was it?