Kill it, cook it, eat it

[< KEVIN >]

This is bang out of order! was channel hopping while my other program was on a ad break
its basically a live slaughtering of animals, very entertaining

Poor dear

ripping the guts out, snapping the legs off.

flick it over and you'll get the idea, i couldn't watch 1 min it more.

[Punx0r]

Whilst it might not be pleasant to watch, we should ignore how our food gets onto our plates. I didn't see the program so don't know what the context was, if it was being getting off on butchering things then I'd find that distasteful.

I deliberately didn't watch that televised autopsy program, but can see its value.

[Beaker]

This is bang out of order! was channel hopping while my other program was on a ad break
its basically a live slaughtering of animals, very entertaining

Poor dear

ripping the guts out, snapping the legs off.

flick it over and you'll get the idea, i couldn't watch 1 min it more.

I have seen them before and it is more educational than entertainment. The more people realise where there food comes from the better.

[teethgrinder]

I personally think that once you turn 16 you should only be allowed to eat meat if you kill it, watch it butchered, cook it all yourself. Too many people have no idea on how meat ends up on your plate.

I have shot plenty of fluffy bunnies and paunched and cooked them. Wouldn't have a problem with bigger beasts.

Would also mean more bacon and sirloin for me because of all teh gayers who couldn't stand it

However, whilst I believe that there was a warning at the start, that wouldn't help you if you channel hopped - might have been better to have it pin protected - at least on Sky.

[Cableguy]

Im in agreement with the whole you should be a vegeterian if you cant kill your own food, ive not been in the situation to kill my own food yet and would find it emotionally traumatising and it might even turn me veggie but thats my belief.

I agree it was difficult to watch though.

[Ritchie]

I sometimes wonder where people think food comes from and how it gets to your plate.

Did anyone watch that series 'unbreakable' on five, a bunch of people thinking that they could face anything, and one of the tasks which had most of them in tears/throwing up was when some locals in a desert slit the throat of a somebody that I used to know, so they could have some food that night.

I to have killed a fair few bunnies and the odd bird which have been turned into a nice dinner (skining animals STINKS) and have a full apperication of where my food comes from, where in the food chain i am, and that there are some animals we breed just for food. Having this knowledge also makes me turn my nose up at a fair few 'meat' products i would say, 'savers sausages' with there 30% 'meat' content most of which is prob chocolate starfish and lips hmmm tasty.

Seems there is a gap in the generations with some, that don't understand what we have to do to survive and eat, its not nice, but i bet it tastes bloody good.

Ritchie

[Sheaf]

I personally think that once you turn 16 you should only be allowed to eat meat if you kill it, watch it butchered, cook it all yourself. Too many people have no idea on how meat ends up on your plate.

Surely going by that logic you should only be allowed to live in a house if you're willing to go out in the freezing cold and lay the bricks yourself. People just dont realise how buildings get built....

People should appreciate where their food comes from and I find it funny when people get all squeamish when they see animals die/get killed, or even talk about it. But at the same time you cant expect all people to do it themselves, some people are just no good at things like that, just the same as not everyone understands computers, can build houses, can design cars, or anything else modern day life involves. Society is all about people doing things that they're good at so they dont have to do the things they're not good at, but as a whole everything gets done.

[Sheaf]

Incidentally, have you ever brought up in conversation when people are eating eggs 'so.. you like the chicken period then?'
Always gets people looking like they're about to throw up

[MicKPM]

I think that saying it's "Bang out of order" is a bit unfair really... I didn't see this one but I caught the last series and thought it was really good. I mean come on, just where and how do you think the meat you buy in the local supermarket gets on the shelf?

FACT: Humans breed animals for mass slaughter in order to eat.

It's not glamerous but the convienece of modern shopping sheilds you from seeing the grusom reality to the process. I used to live in a small village where we had a real butcher and he did his own slaughtering to. The noise wasn't the nicest to listen to when walking by but thems the breaks. You should try going to a modern slaughter house to see how its done automatically as I've designed RC concrete for a fair few around Nottinghamshire: Dip em, shock em, slash them, bolt them, dehair them, drain em then auto sliced and distributed before being packaged. My ex didn't eat meat because she disagreed this mass automation towards slaughter and I can kind of see where she was at to (Didn't stop me eating yummy steak or chicken though).

Again, it is grusom but if you don't like it you have a few options:

A - Don't watch the program.
B - Don't eat meat.
C - Do both

When people are slaughtered en-mass in different countries because they believe in or live somewhere different to men with guns no-one complains but when we kill animals for food they do - Ignorance is bliss (Isn't it?)

[< KEVIN >]

what .... do you think i don't know where meat come from , i don't want to see exactly where it comes from i can imagine. it isn't even educational unless you've been living in a cave all your live. Would you find if appropriate if a dog or a cat was to shot chopped and cooked.
I like it when they say it was killed humanly, there is not humane way to kill an animal unless its suffering in pain thats doggies
FYI i was channel hopping when the girl was standing with a shotgun crying her eyes out while the farmer smearing the blood of the dear over her face and i was like what f**k is this all about. watch about 2 minutes of it, i know when to turn over

i eat very little meat, the point i am making is a fact that this sort of thing of such graphic material shouldn't be shown on TV.
but then again its just an animal.

[teethgrinder]

I think it should be shown on TV and the fact there were warnings on before it started is a good idea...but like I said before...if you miss the start you don't see the warnings!

Problem with TV is there's no one channel that suits all. Except Red Hot All-girl but that costs a lot. So I'm told.

[MicKPM]

Would you find if appropriate if a dog or a cat was to shot chopped and cooked.

The chinesse have been doing just that for centuries but I believe they're cruel begars as a race as they'll kill, cook, eat and sell anything - of course if it's being shot, cooked and eaten then fine by me. I have issues with anyone who goes hunting to kill something and then toally waste it... especially when they call it "Sport". Oh, and I have dogs... 3 of em in case you were wondering where my loyalties lay towards "mans best friend". Dogs however aren't typically bred in this country though as a food source are they?

I like it when they say it was killed humanly, there is not humane way to kill an animal unless its suffering in pain thats doggies.

I agree, ending the life of any living thing prematurely is never going to be truely humane is it... it's impossible but a bolt thru the brain is a very fast, effective and reletively painless end. Even though the body is withering about afterwards do not be fooled as there is no life there and as the brain is dead there will be no pain felt. If you shoot something chances are one shot won't kill outright and the same can be said for using electricity as it doesn't always stun enough and therefore causes pain.

FYI i was channel hopping when the girl was standing with a shotgun crying her eyes out while the farmer smearing the blood of the dear over her face and i was like what f**k is this all about. watch about 2 minutes of it, i know when to turn over.

I'm only stating my opinion on the topic which you and others are equally entittled to disagree with. You made your choice and turned over however I strongly disagree with you despite not seeing this episode/series. I believe this kind of program can be very educational and you are warned beforehand about the graphic nature of the programs content. I hate using quotes to make a point but I feel this one makes clear my point and possibly the point of the program:

"You can't just walk up to someone today tap them on the shoulder and expect them to listen. You have to hit them with a sledge hammer and then you'll see you have their complete attention"

I don't believe the point of the program was to say "killing animals is the coolest". I believe it was proberbly the oppersite as Kids grow up thinking Carrots are made in factories so fek knows where they think meat comes from!

[Bobbybrown]

Name rings a bell, is this the program thats in the slaughter house and they kill it and cook it and eat it all on site?

If so, I watched the last series, watched every week. It was horrible to watch at sometime but I eat the meat, I wanted to see exactly how it got from the field to my plate. To be honest, it did make me think when buying meat for a while.

Good show but its for educational purposes, not entertainment. I don't know how anyone could be 'entertained' by something like that.

[Grant620]

Deer Stalking is not something that most of us could just go and do.
To be able to kill a Deer on many "Stalks", it is a mandatory requirement that you have passed DSC1. This is NOT by any means an easy exam to pass.
It covers such things as humanely culling and killing, where to shoot the deer, how to remove the blood and some innards on the hillside, etc etc.
I know of some fairly clever and well qualified people that have failed the DSC1 exam on the first taking... And it isn't cheap either!

Morally is it right to kill like this? IMO yes.
Surely its 100 times more humane than the way turkeys are treated and reared in general! I bet some people who would complain about Deer Stalking would happily sit down and have a Turkey Dinner on Xmas Day?

[5teve L]

This is bang out of order! was channel hopping while my other program was on a ad break
its basically a live slaughtering of animals, very entertaining

Poor dear

ripping the guts out, snapping the legs off.

flick it over and you'll get the idea, i couldn't watch 1 min it more.

You wouldn't like to go hunting with me then
Shoot it, gut it, take it home, skin it & then put it in the pot with a load of veg & seasoning & eat it, nothing better than a fresh bunny, you keep your chicken reared in a shed mate.

[Tom™]

Would you find if appropriate if a dog or a cat was to shot chopped and cooked.

Why not, we are predators, they are technically prey, just because we have turned them into pets, doesn't mean that they aren't still food, some countries still eat cats and dogs, and while "frowned upon" by some, if they aren't domesticated animals, then they are food. Do you think it is appropriate to slaughter a lamb, a small little baby sheep, bless it, sure you would eat it though.

there is not a humane way to kill an animal

there is actually, oxygen starvation resulting in mild joy filled hysteria, followed by passing out, followed by death, no pain, only lul's

[Tom™]

nothing better than a fresh bunny

don't shoot mine he isn't fat enough yet

[benno_bro]

It's a way of life for a lot of people where I am (Nain, Labrador...mainly Inuit here). They don't waste anything. I completely agree too many people don't know where their food comes from. I'd bet the killing was more humane than the stress some animals must go through, in some slaughter houses that supply your local supermarket.

[syzsounds]

Ok , Here we go ...
I love this programme !

I love the whole basis of what its about , Not killing for fun but killing for food.
I loved the abattoir programs that showed how the animals were "dispatched" and how the were handled afterwards .
I like how all the vegetarians are so stuck up there own arses that they want shooting too.( If you saw the rabbit one the blonde thing wanted a reet slap) Even the animal rights activist wanted to watch how the animals were killed in the end and loved the clay pigeon shooting.

I love the educational quality ( even if it played upon ) of this programme.
I even like the german fella who shows us dead bodies ... maybe its the curious side of my nature about how things work ( Which is also why im on this forum! ) that makes me watch these programmes but i love em.

[MicKPM]

I even like the german fella who shows us dead bodies ... maybe its the curious side of my nature about how things work ( Which is also why im on this forum! ) that makes me watch these programmes but i love em.

Ah yeah, "Gunther Von Hagens Autopsy Live on Ch4"... now that was ace and people complained about that to though they were warned before and during the program about its graphic content. Morbid curiosity makes you watch it though doesn't it even if it disgusts you. I don't think i'd have liked to have experienced it live for the smell alone! When he putting that guys Brain thru a bacon slicer had me feeling a little giddy for some reason but also had me chuckling for using an actual bacon slicer in a medical lab (Apparently it was the "Perfect tool" for obtaining true cross sectional cuts at <2mm increments....riiiiiiight ((Germans and precision )).

Good program - Now what is Ch4's version of the iPlayer again