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TheRealStig wrote: Yeah she was a smackhead, obviously with a shitload of issues to go with it, but that dont make her a bad person and defo doesnt mean she deserved to die.
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TheRealStig wrote: But for anybody to be happy when someone else dies is bang out of order imo unless their sick murderers rapists or pedo`s. Yeah she was a smackhead, obviously with a shitload of issues to go with it, but that dont make her a bad person and defo doesnt mean she deserved to die.
I agree with that statement it's not right to say you are happy that she has died as nobody as you said deserves it unless you are someone really bad.

The one thing that cheeses me off is not that there will be loads of her music on the radio that is to be expected (Just remember what it was like when Micheal Jackson died) but it's that she flaunted the law regarding drugs and just kept being supported time and time again and given loads of chances. If it was anyone else in the real world people would have washed their hands on them.

What kind of an example does that show to the young impressionable girls that like her and want to be like her.
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Re: RIP Amy Winehouse

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Din wrote:
TheRealStig wrote: Yeah she was a smackhead, obviously with a shitload of issues to go with it, but that dont make her a bad person and defo doesnt mean she deserved to die.
+1 tbh.
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The worldly wise on RoverTech have spoken though, I can't believe someone actually reckoned 'twas awesome that she died, unreal :thumbdown:
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Re: RIP Amy Winehouse

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I cant say i was HAPPY when she died, as no loss of life is good is it?

But, to me, it was poetic justice. You take drugs, serious ones and thats where you end up. I view her no different to the junkie idiots who die in a run down house or something.
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Re: RIP Amy Winehouse

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618ireland wrote:
Din wrote:
TheRealStig wrote: Yeah she was a smackhead, obviously with a shitload of issues to go with it, but that dont make her a bad person and defo doesnt mean she deserved to die.
+1 tbh.
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The worldly wise on RoverTech have spoken though, I can't believe someone actually reckoned 'twas awesome that she died, unreal :thumbdown:
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Its easy to kick someone when they're down, let alone when they're dead.

Perhaps instead of banging on about junkies you should be looking at why people end up doing these things. Its a problem with society just as much (if not more than) as the individual.

Lets not forget how much crime and death is associated with alcohol, I'd imagine in raw figures it probably amounts to more than a lot of other drugs combined.
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Re: RIP Amy Winehouse

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stefaclese wrote:
618ireland wrote:
Din wrote:
TheRealStig wrote: Yeah she was a smackhead, obviously with a shitload of issues to go with it, but that dont make her a bad person and defo doesnt mean she deserved to die.
+1 tbh.
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The worldly wise on RoverTech have spoken though, I can't believe someone actually reckoned 'twas awesome that she died, unreal :thumbdown:
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Its easy to kick someone when they're down, let alone when they're dead.

Perhaps instead of banging on about junkies you should be looking at why people end up doing these things. Its a problem with society just as much (if not more than) as the individual.

Lets not forget how much crime and death is associated with alcohol, I'd imagine in raw figures it probably amounts to more than a lot of other drugs combined.
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There was a time when this girl had plenty of talent, alot more to offer than some. So in a way its sad that it ended like this. Its easy to see the now part and all so easy to forget the then part of her existence.
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Re: RIP Amy Winehouse

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yes you can blame who you want :thumbdown: but in the end there is only one person you can blame the person who made the decision

she made the wrong decision end of :x :x

it really is a shame a 27 year old girl ends this way
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Lets just hope her God daughter Dionne Bromfield doesn't follow in her footsteps. She's very talented for her age.
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TheRealStig wrote:How can any of you knobs say that she actually deserved to die.
I know that wasn't aimed at me as I didn't say that but lets be honest here?

Alcohol and cigs are legal, what she was doing isn't. The fact that her 'career' meant she wasn't out TWOCing cars, breaking into houses and stealing your TV and Blue-rays, mugging pensioners or whatever is neither here nor there in my eyes. If she was, I am sure people would feel differently.

She was a smack rat. If you put that much crap into your body you are dealing with death. Other than booze or cigs I can hold my head up. I tried weed as many times as you can count on one hand and that was about 12/13 years ago.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that heroin is bad stuff so anyone that makes a choice to take it is making a conscious choice to die IMO.

The fact that she had a form of income for her habit doesn't negate the fact that she is, or rather was, a druggie waster.

Seriously. What has she done lately? Nothing other than smacking up and popping her clogs.

I have NO sympathy for her. I feel really sorry for her Dad who it's clear that he tried to help her constantly. No mention of the Mother is there?
bjrespect wrote:yes you can blame who you want :thumbdown: but in the end there is only one person you can blame the person who made the decision

she made the wrong decision end of :x :x

it really is a shame a 27 year old girl ends this way
That sums it up nicely.
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:sorry: i'll get some stick for this maybe but im a big winehouse fan, show me another artist britain has produced with such raw talent as her, unlike most she could sing live (when she wasnt off her head i totaly agree with the fans wasting money opinion etc) but the girl was a real singer not like these factory produced pop tarts simon cowel keeps plaguing us with. yes she was a smack rat a junkie a crack head etc but why are people so quick to condemn her for it? no its not the stuff great role models are made of but how many other artisists are on drugs? seriousley come off it if you think they any are any better than she was behind closed doors, for example robbi williams, great voice great talent english and loves his drugs but doesnt get half the flak she did, then theres other great artists for example some one mentioned hendrix... amy was no where near as bad as he was lol the world condemn's a heroin addict but worship's a peadophile (MJ) honestly wtf is that about? if you have enough talent is it socially more acceptable to fettle little boys than it is to inject opium?? is that the message?
yes she chose to the drugs im not sticking up for her for that, but ive spent some time with addicts when it i used to live in a hostel believe me it is a battle for them after the addiction has got them its no longer a drug its a neccesity to them and it can take a lifetime to kick... as a person would i like to meet her no honestly not but as a singer i can listen to her all day. and to the people saying good riddance she was sh!t etc i bet theres been at least one occaision youve sung along to valerie, your lieng if you say you havet :lol:
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Readie86 wrote:i bet theres been at least one occaision youve sung along to valerie, your lieng if you say you havet
You mean that song by the Zutons? :whistle:

Nevermind the Buzzcocks got it right long, long ago - its all Mark Ronsons' fault :lol:
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618ireland wrote:
The worldly wise on RoverTech have spoken though, I can't believe someone actually reckoned 'twas awesome that she died, unreal :thumbdown:
I don't see why. She was a junkie that was held on a pedestal by various people and it was pretty much made out that what she was doing was almost acceptable. The question is, how many others has she influenced?
Her dying in no loss at all. However, it *may* have saved others from being influenced in the future and her pathetic self induced end may actually encourage others to stop.
stefaclese wrote: Perhaps instead of banging on about junkies you should be looking at why people end up doing these things.
Because they're weak and pathetic individuals basically. She wasn't forced into that situation, she has money, had popularity and could have made something for herself. Don't give me any rubbish that she was hard done by. She wasted what many people would cherish.

Anyone can make a life for themselves. The weak turn to drugs of various forms and for that I have no sympathy.

In the same way I have no sympathy for the victims of the Darwin awards. Self induced death is deserved, by definition.


Maybe I'm just a little cold. But sod it, I literally have zero sympathy for her and am glad her face will soon be off the TV and media for good.
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I'd consider sweeping statements and narrow-minded attitudes like that to be signs of a weak mind tbh.
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I'm not narrow minded. But killing yourself by a means which is known to be a massive risk, is illegal and has visibly made you famous for being a waster? How is there any other way to judge that?
Should we be all respecting her for this? Feeling sorry for her?

Life deals blows to most people and most people deal with it with much less opportunity than she had.
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For a start the whole illegality side of things is a farce, there are plenty of deadly pursuits that aren't illegal - driving really fast around a race track being quite a relevant one, or indeed on the autobahn in Germany :drive:

Arguably alcohol has a bigger detrimental effect on society as a whole, through health issues, the financial cost of this to the tax payer through the health service, social effects like violence and plenty of crime to go with it. Yet alcohol is perfectly legal and pretty acceptable as far as society is concerned.

I'm not saying I have deep sympathy, sadness or anything else for her. My reaction if anything was "meh", certainly not surprised by any means. Doesn't mean I'm happily rejoicing over her death. As far as I'm concerned her death is just as tragic to the people who cared about her as any other drug (or other) related death.

You can't really argue the whole "why is the news filled with this" spiel as thats the kind of celebrity/gossip obsessed society we live in. Pretty obvious to anyone sane with the slightest of intellect that a) this is not a very healthy obsession, b) the cycle will just go on and on and on when the next celebrity dies, be it under dubious circumstances or not, and c) you're better off ignoring it to focus on things that actually matter.

As mentioned before, I see no thread regarding the horrific massacre in Norway, but plenty of people showing joy at the death of a celebrity that was of no consequence to them.
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Sheaf wrote:................

Maybe I'm just a little cold. But sod it, I literally have zero sympathy for her and am glad her face will soon be off the TV and media for good.
That's fair enough but thinking 'twas awesome that she died whwn you heard the news is a different kettle of fish, and this smiling to yourself lark to go with it. I dunno what kind of a sick cnut carries on like that to be honest.
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bjrespect wrote:yes you can blame who you want :thumbdown: but in the end there is only one person you can blame the person who made the decision

she made the wrong decision end of :x :x

it really is a shame a 27 year old girl ends this way
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if society was to blame then 75% of rich singers would be dead by now. There is always a choice, and she said YES to drugs and alcohol rather than NO
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Really?

I think you need to chill and not take it all so seriously..... I'm by no means sick or disturbed. In actual fact I'm quite a caring, rational and normal person, moreso than average I think.

To judge my reaction to a waster junkie who's finally stopping spamming the news with her inability to function as a normal human being as assuming I'm a sick cnut is actually rather insulting tbh.
I'm not sick, I just have no time for people who do not respect life.
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I'm totally chilled, lol at the bit about you having no time for folks with no respect for life, coming from someone who grins and reckons it's awsome when they heard someone had died :whistle:

tbh I doubt that was your reaction, I reckon that's just to impress all the lads on here.
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As of yet we dont actually know why she died. There were no drugs at the scene or in the house and she was home all day. Of course it could just have been the toll the drugs had on her body that killed her, but we still dont know.

Once in the grip of drugs getting out is very hard, im not defending her, but you cant just make a choice to stop being a junky and it happens just like that.

Most of the best music and art comes from tortured souls like her and the media drives them to make more and more of their product. We love it while they are behaving badly and criticise them when they either die, or stop making good music because they got over their issues.
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rovex wrote:As of yet we dont actually know why she died. There were no drugs at the scene or in the house and she was home all day.
Hmmm... :lol:
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Limecat wrote:
rovex wrote:As of yet we dont actually know why she died. There were no drugs at the scene or in the house and she was home all day.
Hmmm... :lol:
ha ha i had a little giggle its in her body still a shame anyway you look at it but as the saying gos


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Clearly its impossible for a druggy to die from any reason other than an overdose. No one tell them it will be chaos.

As it happens her Post mortem was inconclusive.
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shes had a post mortem already
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It takes weeks for a tox report, something tells me that just may provide the answer. I'm guessing the inquest has been put on hold until those results are back,
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bjrespect wrote:shes had a post mortem already
Generally something thats done ASAP when someone dies in unexplained circumstances, and generally really as the body starts decomposing pretty quick :wink:
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it is inconclusive if so were :? not being funny just curious

now im not the most intelligent man on this planet belive it or not :munky:

but it isnt realy disclosing anything
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Shes Jewish, they require burial very quickly after death.
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rovex wrote:Shes Jewish, they require burial very quickly after death.

is there test still being done then :blush:
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Roboscot wrote:It takes weeks for a tox report, something tells me that just may provide the answer. I'm guessing the inquest has been put on hold until those results are back,
Silly coroner. :|

'Hmm, what killed this one?'

'Well, it looks like Phil Taylor has been throwing 180's all day long at her veins, she has eyes like a Panda and teeth that look like something from a coconut shy.'

'Nope, I just can't put my finger on it.'
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bjrespect wrote:it is inconclusive if so were :? not being funny just curious

now im not the most intelligent man on this planet belive it or not :munky:

but it isnt realy disclosing anything
Its simply means the cause of death wasn't obvious. It probably was drug related, but an overdose seems unlikely right now.
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Limecat wrote:
Roboscot wrote:It takes weeks for a tox report, something tells me that just may provide the answer. I'm guessing the inquest has been put on hold until those results are back,
Silly coroner. :|

'Hmm, what killed this one?'

'Well, it looks like Phil Taylor as been throwing 180's all day long at her veins, she has eyes like a Panda and teeth that look like something from a coconut shy.'

'Nope, I just can't put my finger on it.'

thats a bit wrong limecat :P :P :P

do you think the coroner had a good feel of her beers :lol: :lol: only joking :oops:
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bjrespect wrote: do you think the coroner had a good feel of her beers :lol: :lol: only joking :oops:
They are best served chilled...
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Limecat wrote:
bjrespect wrote: do you think the coroner had a good feel of her beers :lol: :lol: only joking :oops:
They are best served chilled...
ha ha that meant to say breasts :lol:
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