RIP Amy Winehouse

[618ireland]

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drugs are for mugs

Are steroids drugs?

[bjrespect]

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drugs are for mugs

Are steroids drugs?

yes they are and im not ashamed buddy

they were my choice at the time

yes they are addictive but on mentally

so i made a decision and the correct one at the time of my life

would i take them now i dont think so with a little girl on the way and hannah the love of my life probably not

[radddogg]

show me another artist britain has produced with such raw talent as her

Adele

[Roboscot]

show me another artist britain has produced with such raw talent as her

Adele

Winehouse was better than most rubbish that gets promoted these days but nothing that special tbh - let's face it, without her "issues" would she really have been as successful?

[rover220]

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drugs are for mugs

Are steroids drugs?

yes they are and im not ashamed buddy

they were my choice at the time

yes they are addictive but on mentally

so i made a decision and the correct one at the time of my life

would i take them now i dont think so with a little girl on the way and hannah the love of my life probably not

but you are a mug then?

pot kettle black spring to mind.

[618ireland]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs. I wouldn't be a fan of Amy Winehouse in general admittedly.

Adele would also be a great artist, that doesn't take away from the fact Amy was too. In a generation of Rhianna etc Amy was refreshingly brilliant.

[radddogg]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs.

Again, Zutons and Mark Ronson. Rehab?? So what you're saying is that her best one is the one where she boasts about being a smackhead? Oh the irony

[southside]

Somehow i dont think we'll ever find out the real reason she died. People will probably be paid to lie about the results and say it wasn't a drug related death anyway.

[618ireland]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs.

Again, Zutons and Mark Ronson. Rehab?? So what you're saying is that her best one is the one where she boasts about being a smackhead? Oh the irony

Zutons and Mark Ronson did the singing did they

[carl747]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs.

Again, Zutons and Mark Ronson. Rehab?? So what you're saying is that her best one is the one where she boasts about being a smackhead? Oh the irony

Zutons and Mark Ronson did the singing did they

Zutons did yes and the amy wirehouse song was the Mark Ronson single she did the singing on his song its the same song

can't belive we are talking about her still the uk has made better artists and will again sick of seeing nothing but her on the news

[bjrespect]

Somehow i dont think we'll ever find out the real reason she died. People will probably be paid to lie about the results and say it wasn't a drug related death anyway.

100% agree

[618ireland]

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Zutons did yes and the amy wirehouse song was the Mark Ronson single she did the singing on his song its the same song

can't belive we are talking about her still the uk has made better artists and will again sick of seeing nothing but her on the news

[Limecat]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs. I wouldn't be a fan of Amy Winehouse in general admittedly.

Adele would also be a great artist, that doesn't take away from the fact Amy was too. In a generation of Rhianna etc Amy was refreshingly brilliant.

TBH, even though I have 'Frank' and 'Back to black' from ages ago, she didn't really strike me as outstanding as people are falsely claiming.

She had a sort of 30/40's throw back style to the era of art deco and people seem to crawl up her pooper for it.

Fact of the matter is that Christina Aguilera pulled off a reflection of that era far better, she isn't a one trick pony, she is more successful, isn't a smack-head and is actually FIT, rather than looking like some doped up, painted extra from 'Mummy returns'..

[radddogg]

extra from 'Mummy returns'..

[samsexpress]

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drugs are for mugs

Are steroids drugs?

Is it not the same case for illegal and legal then? I.e almost everything you buy has a form of drug in it, caffine, nicatine alchohol etc etc imo steroids arent the worst in the world if used correctly and safely....all said and done a lad i used to train with died of injecting an air bubble.....

[TheRealStig]

People are hypocritical

Men and women take steroids to produce mass quicker and bigger than they could produce within their natural capabilities (doesnt necessarily mean strength)

Nobody would touch steroids if they made you look like a "smackhead"

Well what if steroids had the same physical and mental side effects as heroin but still made you look wench?

People often do or dont take drugs often because of image, steroids and weed is fine in many peoples books because you`re one of the boys(although alot of people hide steroid use) Even though weed is producing a generation of paranoid shitzo`s (knife/gun crime, robberies etc) and steroids in the wrong hands can permantly damage a males natural testosterone production, whilst also giving him female breast tissue and small balls (if he didnt already have them)
Cocaine is now more commonly used because of celebrities and the fact you would take it "down town" also because there arent many "physical" symptons apart from looking paler, speed, lsd, ketamine etc

The drugs rightly on the "dont do" list are brown, crack, meth. These drugs are the most potent, but the majority of people dont touch them because of this, they dont because of the person it creates, the stigma attatched to a "smackhead"

She would have been addicted to brown and crack, which are 2 of the hardest drugs to kick, do you think these people lose everything and have clinical depression on a whim? They cannot function without their drug. End of

I`m not condoning it, alot of them lose all morals and all self respect, but its easy for people to judge and say that someone deserved to die if they havent walked in their shoes.

I`m not preaching, its how society is, just makes me life how self righteous people think they are, especially when they would take the same drug if it had a different effect physically.

I wasnt sad when I heard she died, I could appreciate her voice and the album mentioned had some decent tunes. I just think its such a waste and its easy to take the tripe n onions but thats somebody`s life gone down the pan leaving a distraught mum and dad.

[Sheaf]

The thing is, most people have been in environments where people take drugs, have had plenty of opportunity to take them, maybe even felt pressured into taking them.

I know plenty of people who do/have taken a variety of drugs. None have ended up in such a state as that. Actually, they're all decent respectable people.

Never have I felt the need to take them either. I don't and never have smoked either.

It's really not difficult to resist starting these things, even when you're in an environment where people do take them.

Unless you're held down and forced to take them in the first place, then starting taking them is a choice.

[TheRealStig]

The thing is, most people have been in environments where people take drugs, have had plenty of opportunity to take them, maybe even felt pressured into taking them.

I know plenty of people who do/have taken a variety of drugs. None have ended up in such a state as that. Actually, they're all decent respectable people.

Never have I felt the need to take them either. I don't and never have smoked either.

It's really not difficult to resist starting these things, even when you're in an environment where people do take them.

Unless you're held down and forced to take them in the first place, then starting taking them is a choice.

Looking at it from you`re point of view, you`re right it should`nt be difficult to resist, but I`m guessing you come from a decent home and you`re mates are "decent" people, which means you`re not likely to be in an environment where it leads to class A drug taking on a scale where it leads to acute addiction.

Most of the people you talk about I can guarentee would only have "dabbled" like most students do, live in "decent" areas, have a "decent" education, they`re not living like sh1t or are involved with the "wrong" crowd who commit alot of crime, its people like this who occassionally smoke bud and have the odd line at the weekend and return to normal life during the week, so it makes it so much easier not to become addicted. Because of this its easy for you to say that its an easy decision not to take drugs.

I`ve got no sympathy for alot of drug users because of the things they do, but they have been through alot of sh1t to get them to the position they`re in. Alot of them have been mistreated and/or abused as kids, have clinical depression etc.

You`re right ultimately everyone has a decision but once someone is an addict its very naive to think its as simple as to just stop taking them. Class A drug addiction can be compared to a very bad illness and it takes an awful lot of substitute medication and determination to get off them, thats without considering the situation they`re in.

Prostitutes are a prime example and although 99.9% are "smackheads" and are classed as the lowest of the low, its people like Mr mp from a middle class background who is seedily shagging one behind his missus back and funding her habit, making either her pimp or drug dealer richer and helping keep her in the position she is in.

[Cableguy]

So if you live in a sh1t hole , and ya dads a car thief, your automatically a drug user with no self discipline ?

Im paraphrashing slightly.

[maestrovdpt16]

I had a friend as a youth, his parents had really bad drug problems, we used to go around to their house and the mess and lack of hygiene was truly shocking, they would just sit around all day doing drugs. Until they looked half asleep much like Amy in the picture posted up. They would just smoke the whole day away sometimes.

He has gone the same way now, sad really as he was back then a really decent guy, good sense of humor and had a great character. All that is buried now beneath this odd self centred need to feed his habit.

[TheRealStig]

So if you live in a sh1t hole , and ya dads a car thief, your automatically a drug user with no self discipline ?

Im paraphrashing slightly.

No.

I`m stereotyping like most have been doing on this thread.

Although it doesnt necessarily mean you`ll be a drug user, coming from a sh!t background doesnt help, just like coming from a good background doesnt mean you wont become a user, but it certainly means you have a better chance of not becoming one.

[radddogg]

I've heard it all now!

Do I need to resurrect the children out of wedlock thread to highlight the hypocracy?

[TheRealStig]

I've heard it all now!

Do I need to resurrect the children out of wedlock thread to highlight the hypocracy?

Yeah can do if you want, I`m not a hypocrit, I remember you talking doggies though

[bjrespect]

its all down to will power and self disapline with drug in any sence were you come from doesnt matter its the choice you make

[618ireland]

The thing is, most people have been in environments where people take drugs, have had plenty of opportunity to take them, maybe even felt pressured into taking them............................
It's really not difficult to resist starting these things, even when you're in an environment where people do take them.

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There's a difference between being in the company of a group of well to do knob ends that are sharing a gram of Daz and being in the company of a group of kids that you grew up with from troubled/neglected backgrounds who are selling and using junk.

[radddogg]

I've heard it all now!

Do I need to resurrect the children out of wedlock thread to highlight the hypocracy?

Yeah can do if you want, I`m not a hypocrit, I remember you talking doggies though

I stereotyped chavs. Just like you have here. So you must be talking doggies too?

[TheRealStig]

The thing is, most people have been in environments where people take drugs, have had plenty of opportunity to take them, maybe even felt pressured into taking them............................
It's really not difficult to resist starting these things, even when you're in an environment where people do take them.

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There's a difference between being in the company of a group of well to do knob ends that are sharing a gram of Daz and being in the company of a group of kids that you grew up with from troubled/neglected backgrounds who are selling and using junk.

Exactly

I've heard it all now!

Do I need to resurrect the children out of wedlock thread to highlight the hypocracy?

Yeah can do if you want, I`m not a hypocrit, I remember you talking doggies though

I stereotyped chavs. Just like you have here. So you must be talking doggies too?

I was using stereotypical points because people were stereotyping drug users.

I definitely dont do stereotypes or hypocracy

[Punx0r]

The problem IMO is that the people who become junkies are those who are weak-willed and with addictive personalities.

Nicotine is by far the hardest drug to kick (rated subjectively by junkies), yet everyone knows someone who has quit.

If I was broke there's certainly something I wouldn't do: anything costing 40 quid a gram

[rovex]

Valerie and the Rehab tune are timeless imo, savagely good songs. I wouldn't be a fan of Amy Winehouse in general admittedly.

Adele would also be a great artist, that doesn't take away from the fact Amy was too. In a generation of Rhianna etc Amy was refreshingly brilliant.

TBH, even though I have 'Frank' and 'Back to black' from ages ago, she didn't really strike me as outstanding as people are falsely claiming.

She had a sort of 30/40's throw back style to the era of art deco and people seem to crawl up her pooper for it.

Fact of the matter is that Christina Aguilera pulled off a reflection of that era far better, she isn't a one trick pony, she is more successful, isn't a smack-head and is actually FIT, rather than looking like some doped up, painted extra from 'Mummy returns'..

Ok.. Does Christina write her own music,and i mean REALLY write it, not just having a writing credit that means she was in the room while others were doing it, like Beyonce. No. Is she a one trick pony? Yes because she sure as hell cant act. As for being fit, its hard to tell. Im not even sure there is a human underneath that 60Kg of make-up.

[radddogg]

As for being fit, its hard to tell.

No offence but are you the best judge?

[rovex]

I can still tell what is and isnt attractive. She looks like an over made up pig these days, the days of her looking attractive are well past her. She is starting to look, dare I say it, a bit manish now.

Either way saying she is more talented than Winehouse has to be a joke. She has a voice that can hold a tune, thats it. Its soulless and bland and typically of american singers, over reliant on vocal gymnastics.

[radddogg]

Fair play

I don't think she is particularly special, she's a bit dirrrty for me.

[Limecat]

I can still tell what is and isnt attractive. She looks like an over made up pig these days, the days of her looking attractive are well past her. She is starting to look, dare I say it, a bit manish now.

Either way saying she is more talented than Winehouse has to be a joke. She has a voice that can hold a tune, thats it. Its soulless and bland and typically of american singers, over reliant on vocal gymnastics.

You really are making yourself look a bit daft aren't you?

What looks better, an attractive slim girl or a mashed up, painted smack-rat? Seriously lad. Take your head for a sodding wobble.

The fact you are even trying to claim that someone with a vocal range like Christina Aguilera is somehow less talented than some smackhead who has a handful of chart released songs and nothing near the success is laughable. Do you HONESTLY think before you type that crap?

Hmmm - some minging bag head with perforated arms, covered in minging tattoos and with a limited vocal range or some little fittie with a huge octave range? Let me think?

[l88ajy]

is there really any point in everyone arguing and picking at each other for the sake of a person who had a career ahead of them and chose to inject whatever the f*ck she injected and wasted her life,

everyones opinions are different on what is and what isnt 'the in thing' or whats attractive but surely some famous smackhead wasting her life is a lesson for people to learn from not a reason to mother hen and argue with each other

[618ireland]

The spirit of the thread was RIP Amy Winehouse, all the smack head comments are a tad unnecessary really imo.