Family too fat to work complain about £22k benefits

[daz500]

Family who are 'too fat to work' say £22,000 worth of benefits is not enough - Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... nough.html

Unbelievable

[mg-richard]

ive seen fatter working, youd have to put me on suicide watch if i got myself that fat and couldnt work

[shen]

seen that...poor sods, such a terrible disease this obesity thing.

I can just see every old gimmer sat in pubs around the country saying the usual 'wouldn't have happened in our day'
yeah, cos they had too much pride and dignity to come out with such rubbish as did other people that would have staved their heads in if they'd tried it.

half their benefits and starve them till they're thin enough so they can work..not a tough problem really is it.

[MarkCoupe]

Hereditary my donkey boy. Its what happens if you eat logger and dont excercise. Simple really.

[fergy7197]

let them live by the phrase " if you dont work you dont eat"

im sure they will find a job!

quote from family "theres hardly any money left to put food on the table" - no f*cking wonder, they must go through 50 quid a day in food more like!

[Sheaf]

Stop it all together, if they cant afford food maybe they'll stop being such lard arses.

[MarkCoupe]

Stop it all together, if they cant afford food maybe they'll stop being such lard arses.

Amen to that.

[daz500]

I didn't think the father was that fat to be honest Back to the gym for me

[Roboscot]

We're fat because it's in our genes

Oh really?

We have bacon butties for lunch and microwave pies with mashed potato or chips for dinner

Hmm!

[BlueRover]

That family is the one whose daughter (the one on the right in the pic) was on X-factor. She appeared in a dress her dad made (what a feckin' mess that was). Simon Cowell's comments were a peach.




The following year she tried again but had made no improvement (except she was wearing proper clothes this time). She still can't sing though. Then they were evicted from their council house for noise pollution (no surprise there then).

Still, at least they look happy (if you can see through all the fat on their faces).

Seriously, if someone has a problem which isn't their fault then I am sympathetic but when I was unemployed I got £58.45 per week job seekers allowance and council tax benefit but I still had to pay all my bills and mortgage.

[Punx0r]

Responding to that story really is a case of shooting chunky fish in a barrel.

This got my attention though:

Mrs Chawner is paid an extra £330-a-month disability allowance for epilepsy and asthma, both a result of being overweight.

Being fat doesn't cause epilepsy! How on earth could it? Epilepsy can lead to obesity through lack of exercise, but AFAIK there is absolutely no link going in the other direction.

[agw_01]

Too fat to work?

They don't even need to get a job where they need to be mobile! Just sit at a desk all day or get a job on the checkout at Asda or something like that!

Makes me sick!

[Cableguy]

Responding to that story really is a case of shooting chunky fish in a barrel.

This got my attention though:

Mrs Chawner is paid an extra £330-a-month disability allowance for epilepsy and asthma, both a result of being overweight.

Being fat doesn't cause epilepsy! How on earth could it? Epilepsy can lead to obesity through lack of exercise, but AFAIK there is absolutely no link going in the other direction.

She does have a REALLY fat head, perhaps its pressing on the cerebral area ?

[s0ck]

just lol.

[C2K]

Just lol, from Blackburn so it makes sense.

He's not too fat to work, just too fecking lazy. Hereditary obesity is common, but only the kids of them two have it i'd say - the other two are just fecking lazy.

[200coupe]

There just takeing the p!ss obviously the moneys not enough for a takeaway every night

WTF is all that about fruit and veg being too expensive? a bag of broccoli is about a £1 in iceland, its more a case of they dont want to eat it.

They sould be made to get a wii & wii fit and made to do the exercises under armed guard!

[shen]

one simple message for them, when you can get a joint of british lamb in asda for £3 which feeds 4 normal people

learn 2 cook!!!!

[MarkCoupe]

Just lol, from Blackburn so it makes sense.

He's not too fat to work, just too fecking lazy. Hereditary obesity is common, but only the kids of them two have it i'd say - the other two are just fecking lazy.

Baahhh!! Far too commonly used. Stop them eating all the sh!t that they do, get them to run 5miles a day, hour in the gym, half hour in the pool. They wont be fat anymore.

[Sheaf]

Fresh fruit can be a little pricey (but still worth buying) but veg is cheap, and frozen veg is pence.

I have absolutely no sympathy for people like that, or anyone seriously overweight. My mum is overweight and comes up with all the excuses under the sun... she hates it when I point out that it's all a load of rubbish and she's the way she is because she's a 5'4" woman who eats the same size meals as me (6' bloke), plus she has biscuits/snacks between meals.

I've noticed that overweight people will always try and find every excuse they can, they'll even believe it themselves... plus they LOVE being on diets, purely because they can talk to everyone about how they're on a diet, and compare their various points systems, colour systems or whatever crap the latest slimming club is feeding them. Generally they'll go on a diet, talk to everyone who'll listen about it, get fed up after 2 months, put the weight back on, then repeat the cycle again.

Oh, and they HATE being told the truth, that they're fat because they eat more food than their body needs, or can process, pure and simple.

[daz500]

Fresh fruit can be a little pricey (but still worth buying) but veg is cheap, and frozen veg is pence.

I have absolutely no sympathy for people like that, or anyone seriously overweight. My mum is overweight and comes up with all the excuses under the sun... she hates it when I point out that it's all a load of rubbish and she's the way she is because she's a 5'4" woman who eats the same size meals as me (6' bloke), plus she has biscuits/snacks between meals.

I've noticed that overweight people will always try and find every excuse they can, they'll even believe it themselves... plus they LOVE being on diets, purely because they can talk to everyone about how they're on a diet, and compare their various points systems, colour systems or whatever crap the latest slimming club is feeding them. Generally they'll go on a diet, talk to everyone who'll listen about it, get fed up after 2 months, put the weight back on, then repeat the cycle again.

Oh, and they HATE being told the truth, that they're fat because they eat more food than their body needs, or can process, pure and simple.

Wow .. some nice thoughts there . Having an overweight mum I thought you'd have a shown a bit more compassion and understanding of why people can be overweight. If only it was as black & white as you have made out but unfortunately the human body is extremely complex.

Would you like being told you are ugly? Probably not. The same goes for overweight people who more than likely already realise they've let themselves go abit.

I have no issue with people being overweight but I do have issue with those that expect the state to look after them because they are too lazy (whether they be fat or thin)

[shen]

Fresh fruit can be a little pricey (but still worth buying) but veg is cheap, and frozen veg is pence.

I have absolutely no sympathy for people like that, or anyone seriously overweight. My mum is overweight and comes up with all the excuses under the sun... she hates it when I point out that it's all a load of rubbish and she's the way she is because she's a 5'4" woman who eats the same size meals as me (6' bloke), plus she has biscuits/snacks between meals.

I've noticed that overweight people will always try and find every excuse they can, they'll even believe it themselves... plus they LOVE being on diets, purely because they can talk to everyone about how they're on a diet, and compare their various points systems, colour systems or whatever crap the latest slimming club is feeding them. Generally they'll go on a diet, talk to everyone who'll listen about it, get fed up after 2 months, put the weight back on, then repeat the cycle again.

Oh, and they HATE being told the truth, that they're fat because they eat more food than their body needs, or can process, pure and simple.

Wow .. some nice thoughts there . Having an overweight mum I thought you'd have a shown a bit more compassion and understanding of why people can be overweight. If only it was as black & white as you have made out but unfortunately the human body is extremely complex.

Would you like being told you are ugly? Probably not. The same goes for overweight people who more than likely already realise they've let themselves go abit.

I have no issue with people being overweight but I do have issue with those that expect the state to look after them because they are too lazy (whether they be fat or thin)

totally agree with this...my mum is a bitt miffed at her weight as she obviously isn't the super slim girl she once was...not obese by any means but she excercises alot..walks everywhere, eats far less than I do and is always up and about. I'm slim and she isn't ...life sometimes isn't fair and everyone will be prone to putting on a few pounds as they get older.

The kids in this family need a hefty beating and so do their parents tbh.

At the end of the day no tax payer is happy their money goes to retards like this.

[MarkCoupe]

I have no issue with people being overweight but I do have issue with those that expect the state to look after them because they are too lazy (whether they be fat or thin)

Dito, i have a problem with people that moan about, or use their weight as an excuse. Most of my family are overweight, but too lazy to do anything about it, doesnt bother me unless they moan.

[munky]

finally there is an answer to the eternal question....


who ate all the (microwave) pies?

disgustng lardy c*nts. Fat people should be told they are fat, they should be ridiculed for it, that way it wont become socially acceptable to be fat. Our medical system has enough to deal with as it is, an obese population is something it cant deal with. An 'oversize suite' costs tens of thousands to build and maintain, to the point most hospitals have to rent the cranes and reinforced chairs etc because they're too expensive to buy.

At least smokers and drinkers pay massive amounts of tax so when they need the medical care they've kinda paid for it... Yet I dont see £5 in tax being added to mars bars...

The very small percentage of overweight people that are because of a medical condition I do feel sorry for. The rest of the sweaty fat f*cks should be lined up and shot.

I've put on a stone in the last year, I now weigh 12 stone.... I think I'm fat and I know I have to do something about it... I cant fathom when or how the human mind gets from thinking 'I'm a bit tubby' to 'I weigh 30 stone and have to be lifted onto the sh*tter by a crane' without at some point thinking 'maybe its time I did something about this'....

before anyone starts, I'm talking about morbid obesity through eating and not exercising. I'm no ttalking about your average run of the mill chunky person...

[shen]

finally there is an answer to the eternal question....


who ate all the (microwave) pies?

disgustng lardy c*nts. Fat people should be told they are fat, they should be ridiculed for it, that way it wont become socially acceptable to be fat. Our medical system has enough to deal with as it is, an obese population is something it cant deal with. An 'oversize suite' costs tens of thousands to build and maintain, to the point most hospitals have to rent the cranes and reinforced chairs etc because they're too expensive to buy.

At least smokers and drinkers pay massive amounts of tax so when they need the medical care they've kinda paid for it... Yet I dont see £5 in tax being added to mars bars...

The very small percentage of overweight people that are because of a medical condition I do feel sorry for. The rest of the sweaty fat f*cks should be lined up and shot.

I've put on a stone in the last year, I now weigh 12 stone.... I think I'm fat and I know I have to do something about it... I cant fathom when or how the human mind gets from thinking 'I'm a bit tubby' to 'I weigh 30 stone and have to be lifted onto the sh*tter by a crane' without at some point thinking 'maybe its time I did something about this'....

before anyone starts, I'm talking about morbid obesity through eating and not exercising. I'm no ttalking about your average run of the mill chunky person...

you've hit on a vitally important solution here....

see i'm 13 and a half stone but i'm also 6'4..so i'm rather dashing and athletic looking hehe
you feeling overweight at 12 means only one thing...

you need stretching

if the hospitals invested in a stretching machine like on charlie and the chocolate factory there would be no problem at all

[munky]

to be fair... I'm only fat in one area... I look like I'm about 5 months pregnant.

But yes, I'm not the tallest of people. The last time the police asked my height they laughed when I said 5'9"... turns out I'm 5'7". Still... I'm only a stone overweight and thats all concentrated in my beer belly.

My point is that I cant understand how people care so little about their appearance and health that they dont do what I'm doing now... looking at my gut and thinking 'that has to go'...

I like food, I like food a LOT... I also like wine a lot. But not enough to give up all my self respect and dignity for the sake of a pizza and a pint or 10000.

[rovex]

I used to be 25 stone and worked full time. True i was young and probably more able to, but even so. Im now about 18 stone and 34 years old, and still work full time, even though ive recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism, have a heart rate of 45 to 50 and have almost no energy due to a lack of thyroxine in my blood. This also causes numbness in the hands making delicate work tricky.

These people CAN work, they just cant be bothered and use their fatness as an excuse. If they think they are fat due to genes then they should get tested since there is treatment.

It is however very easy to get fat, a normal person will gain a stone a year if they over eat by just 100 cals a day, that 1.5 apples or a couple of cups of tea with 2 sugars and milk in.

[james26386]

Being that I used to be a gym instructor, and seen and coached many people in the gym there is a very simple fact that a lot of these faddy daddy diets seem to not quote.

If you want to lose weight, you need to burn off more calories than you take in.

SIMPLE.

The problem I have noticed is that overweight people will join a gym, and 99 out of 100 of them will get on a treadmill or whatever cardio machine and will set it at a nice gentle walking pace, do their time, hit a few weight machines and then they're done. Ok, so they've spent an hour or so in the gym, but they have never once even broken a sweat, or even got slightly red in the face.

It's a complete waste of time, and although they've done an hour in the gym, they've burnt off feck all calories. You can't keep doing the same thing day in day out, e.g. saying you walk to work every day. Over time, your body gets used to it and gets itself in a routine, and thus you end up burning less and less calories. You have to keep your body guessing by varying the exercises and routes you do.

Anyway, back to the 99 out of 100 overweight people - they will obviously all think that gyms are a waste of time and money as they are seeing no effects from all their 'hard work.'

But every once in a blue moon, someone would come along and would really push themselves HARD, and also change their diet to a very strict one. And the person that springs to mind lost his 1st stone in under a month which is pretty remarkable really.

I guess the problem for a lot of people is that it is hard work to see these kinds of results, and requires massive, and not easy commitment.

[rovex]

Gyms are not the way, they are overpriced and unpleasant. I lost 8 stone and didnt go near a gym, and still wont. However you do need to change your lifestyle, Personally i found losing a bit first will naturally incline you to do more exercise.
Frankly going to the gym is the hardest way to lose weight i can imagine, with a strict diet it can be fast, but really just a 20% reduction in calories and a half hour walk a day will work pretty wellande will last longer to since its a realistic permanent soluton.

If you want to lose weight, you need to burn off more calories than you take in.

SIMPLE.

While thats true it is a gross oversimplification. Not everyone is created equal and there are a number of factors that effect wyh its not always easy or possible to prevent weight gain.

Take my hypothyroidism. If i were to now try to lose weight like i did before i would slip into a coma and possibly die. If i were to try to exercise the weight off id pass out because my heart wouldn't increase its rate to cover the extra oxygen demands. Mild forms of it are very common and can cause weight gain without the other symptoms. 5% of the population have it in some form.

Whats wrong with this family is that they are happy this way, they dont want to genuinely find out if there is a genetic or medical reason they are fat, they simply want to sponge off us.

[shen]

for me to gain weight is extremely difficult...

saying calories burned loses weight is just not right

get someone prone to gaining weight and i'll eat twice what they do in a day and still never put on a pound.
How do I know...like the change your routine thing...

I changed my routine one year after a major operation..I sat on my A$$ and did nothing pretty much but eat and drink and relax.
total weight gain = 0

i was exactly the same after the year as before.

Some people do find weight loss hard and some find weight gain hard.....but your level of fitness is related to the shi* you eat and the amount you exercise....whether you are considered overweight or not that's the important part.

Almost all rugby players would be considered obese on basis of height and weight..think on.

[munky]

shen, how old are you?

genuine question.

[james26386]

for me to gain weight is extremely difficult...

saying calories burned loses weight is just not right

get someone prone to gaining weight and i'll eat twice what they do in a day and still never put on a pound.
How do I know...like the change your routine thing...

I changed my routine one year after a major operation..I sat on my A$$ and did nothing pretty much but eat and drink and relax.
total weight gain = 0

i was exactly the same after the year as before.

Some people do find weight loss hard and some find weight gain hard.....but your level of fitness is related to the shi* you eat and the amount you exercise....whether you are considered overweight or not that's the important part.

Almost all rugby players would be considered obese on basis of height and weight..think on.

Very true - and as I said above and what you've stated proves my point - burn off more than you take in and you will lose weight. If you have a quick metabolism then you will have to eat a huge amount in order to gain weight. A person with a slow metabolism eating the same amount will naturally want to put on weight.

Gyms are not the way, they are overpriced and unpleasant. I lost 8 stone and didnt go near a gym, and still wont. However you do need to change your lifestyle, Personally i found losing a bit first will naturally incline you to do more exercise.
Frankly going to the gym is the hardest way to lose weight i can imagine, with a strict diet it can be fast, but really just a 20% reduction in calories and a half hour walk a day will work pretty wellande will last longer to since its a realistic permanent soluton.

While thats true it is a gross oversimplification. Not everyone is created equal and there are a number of factors that effect wyh its not always easy or possible to prevent weight gain.

Take my hypothyroidism. If i were to now try to lose weight like i did before i would slip into a coma and possibly die. If i were to try to exercise the weight off id pass out because my heart wouldn't increase its rate to cover the extra oxygen demands. Mild forms of it are very common and can cause weight gain without the other symptoms. 5% of the population have it in some form.

Whats wrong with this family is that they are happy this way, they dont want to genuinely find out if there is a genetic or medical reason they are fat, they simply want to sponge off us.

What I said is not an 'oversimplification.' It is a fact. Ok, so some people's bodies will naturally want to burn it off quicker than others, but if you are overweight and you burn off more than you eat - you will lose weight. You physically can't put on weight.

I have a very fast metabolism, and as part of my lifestyle I try to put on weight. For me, this is like a person with a slow metabolism trying to lose weight. And I can tell you, it ain't easy, which I'm sure you know from what you're saying.

I know I haven't taken into account illnesses, but this is something that you could only factor in if you knew the risks etc, which I don't for some of them.

[tyreburner]

bother that, i am on a cream cake and beer diet from now on, then in 6 month i will be too fat to fit behind the wheel, then i will claim i cant work - sign on get diabetes,epilepsy, and aggrophobia cause of people laughing at me, then i will go gym, get fit again and wear a fat suit when its time to sign on! Sorted!!!

[rovex]

The reason its an oversimplification is that it doesnt take a lot of factors into account. Ive heard this line before, it implys that if you eat less you will lose weight, but that's simply not always true. While its true that ultimately if you eat less than you burn you will lose weight the body is very good at changing the line at which that point happens.
Its akin to saying that if you fill a cars fuel tank it will always get you further than filling it 3/4 full. Thats not always true as we all know.

[james26386]

The reason its an oversimplification is that it doesnt take a lot of factors into account. Ive heard this line before, it implys that if you eat less you will lose weight, but that's simply not always true. While its true that ultimately if you eat less than you burn you will lose weight the body is very good at changing the line at which that point happens.
Its akin to saying that if you fill a cars fuel tank it will always get you further than filling it 3/4 full. Thats not always true as we all know.

The point I made was that if you burn off more than you take in, you will lose weight. There's no other way about it.

People with slow metabolism will have to work harder to burn calories off, and be careful to eat less - and vice versa like me trying to put on weight! I have to know how much I am burning off, and then compensate by forcing myself to eat more.

I can't see how you can argue that it isn't that simple??

[Punx0r]

What if you exclude specific conditions like hypothyroidism though?

It stands to reason that your body needs X calories per day. Consume less and bodyfat will be plundered, consume more and the surplus is likely to be stored.

Some people have a real problem: imagine being ravenously hungry all the time. Imagine eating a huge meal and still your body is telling you you're literally starving. I have sympathy for these people and the greatest respect for the few who do manage their condition. What they fight is so much harder than giving up any street drug.

They are a small minority though. For a lot of them it's just a case of stepping away from the pie.