forged rods.

[roverdave]

i have been talking to a guy who makes custom H beam forged rods BUT i have to get atleast 2 sets made for him to do it.. im sure he wont mind more... only catch is they come with out bolts but arp sell these he sed he will give me the sizes aswell.

£200 a set ! (not sure on postage yet as i havent asked. whos interested ???

these are a set hes made for a cosworth

[rovermadman4825]

Them look similar too the PEC style one's

What does he rate them too any spec's you know might help

[roverdave]

completly forgot specs lol !

lghtweight H-beam section connecting rods are forged from 4340 (En24) steel.
Heat treated and fully shot-peened for higher fatigue strength
Small end bushed for fully floating
Suitable for high-performance street and competition uses.
Rated to 9,000 rpm and 600bhp+

there ya go

[roverdave]

(not sure about the small end floating thing) didnt ask yet unless thats a standered thing

[rovermadman4825]

Thats better

Intresting and I might be intrested, will they work fine with most forged pistons or standard

[roverdave]

hes going to be copying a set of standered rods im sending him so they fit standered pistons or forged ? i have 86mm wossner pistons on my standered rods at the moment.

ALSO I DONT THINK I MENTIONED THERE FOR THE T16 god im bad on forums lol

[rovermadman4825]

so these arnt for the robin relient



I might be intrested in a set as them are cheep for a strong set off rod's all i'd need then is some nice pistons

[roverdave]

awsome! i wont email him back for a while incase theres sum more people that want them. also ill find out how he wants to do payments etc... also dont no how long would have to wait. my shopping around paid off

[_BILLY_ZR_]

sounds good i mite jump on the wagon

[roverdave]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ARP-rod-bolts-3-8 ... 4152d07569

there the bolts but dont no how many thats for

[ulmenkott]

£200/set is damn good if they are as good as he claims.
Count me in too!

/Joakim

[ttrw2]

i have been talking to a guy who makes custom H beam forged rods BUT i have to get atleast 2 sets made for him to do it..

Anyone else smell a rat here? The cost of dies for the forging, even if just made from tool steel, is massive for something like a con-rod so how can he possibly spread it across 2 sets only?

[roverdave]

hope your not accusing me of trying to scam people?. i dont care how he does it aslong as i get mine for £200 i will even be visiting him personaly to drop of the standered rods. only need one other person anyway so i dont need lots of people saying yes

also i wont be handeling anyone elses money i will pass on every last detail once the guy has OK'd them.

[ttrw2]

OK I'll take a set then. Let me know his details so I can give him a call to discuss.

Thanks

[roverdave]

will do as soon as hes got my rods and ok's it i shall! alternatvly i could buy the 2 sets he wants aslong as someone promise's to buy them off me because obviosly i dont need 2 sets. i just 4t id spread the bargin. i did consider buying a few sets and selling them on buy moneys tight for me hence y im looking at these.

[Grant620]

Was talking to Andy (ANR) the other day about these cheap rods.
He has had the same conversations as I have with the "suppliers".
They are rated at 600hp are they?
Name me 3 T16 cars running 600hp on these Rods.
I'll name you none as they don't exist.
These Chinese rods are weaker than stock, and I'm not the only person to have discovered this.

[rovermadman4825]

I am up for a set as soon as I get paid at the start of next month I have the money now just need too keep that little bit in, in case of any sneaky direct debits

[mike88]

Name me 3 T16 cars running 600hp

tbh.

[roverdave]

as he sells them for cosworths, scoobys, civics and the red top im willing to give em a go.

but like i sed he only wants min of 2 sets to make it worth him making them even if i buy both them sets myself its still cheaper than others.

maybe the first 2 sets is paying for his molds to be made ? then theres loadsa profit in it.

[rovermadman4825]

Was talking to Andy (ANR) the other day about these cheap rods.
He has had the same conversations as I have with the "suppliers".
They are rated at 600hp are they?
Name me 3 T16 cars running 600hp on these Rods.
I'll name you none as they don't exist.
These Chinese rods are weaker than stock, and I'm not the only person to have discovered this.

Fair 1 but these arnt ment too be cheap chinese rods their cheap but hopefully not as bad quality and this bloke makes these kind of rods for the ford boys so they must be better than standard or knowone would use him

or am I clutching at straws

[_BILLY_ZR_]

clutching at straws tbh

[rovermadman4825]

VVC mini has had no problems with his newly built engine with PEC rods (the same style of the above ones) and he's going too be aming for 300bhp

[roverdave]

just so everyone can satisfiy there questions as soon as i get the ok i shall give out his phone number and warn him he will be bombarded with questions lol. i kinda regret posting this now

[rovermadman4825]

just so everyone can satisfiy there questions as soon as i get the ok i shall give out his phone number and warn him he will be bombarded with questions lol. i kinda regret posting this now

meh everything cheap will get alot of scruteny lets hope the bloke is genuine and very good at his job

[maestrovdpt16]

when something is too good to be true... A solid forged set of rods for 200, when the cheapest other alternative costs...

Trying not to sound like I know these are going to be duff but it just sounds very unlikely.

[Punx0r]

Dave, I wouldn't let him be flooded with phonecalls. I'd just PM it to Rob (ttrw2) or anyone similar who is interested and can talk tech.

BTW, no one here is insinuating that you might be dishonest, it's just very unusual to find rods this cheap and they're not something that are easily produced in small numbers. So people are suspicious of what exactly you might be getting.

[roverdave]

ok sounds like a beter idea lol. ill send it to him wen he gets bk to me then :!)

[ulmenkott]

I'm afraid these are PEC's after all.. check the description from this page re the Cossie rods, it's an almost word by word match from your second post roverdave:
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/epages/e ... d%20Set%22

Still would be interresting if someone who knows rods can talk to them and figure out what they really are.

/Joakim

[rovermadman4825]

Dave, I wouldn't let him be flooded with phonecalls. I'd just PM it to Rob (ttrw2) or anyone similar who is interested and can talk tech.

BTW, no one here is insinuating that you might be dishonest, it's just very unusual to find rods this cheap and they're not something that are easily produced in small numbers. So people are suspicious of what exactly you might be getting.

Best idea yet altho they ar starting too look like the PEC rod's but as I said before vvc mini is using a set and had no problems yet

[ttrw2]

when something is too good to be true... A solid forged set of rods for 200, when the cheapest other alternative costs...

Trying not to sound like I know these are going to be duff but it just sounds very unlikely.

Not really, just shows the mark-up vendors place on the product because the perceived cost, to bring to market, is so high.

[Deckz]

Possibly interested in a set here

[ulmenkott]

So what was the deal with these rods.. China/PEC-style or proper ones?

/Joakim

[Cableguy]

Im willing to give a set a go too.

[MarkCoupe]

Wow, confusing thread.

'He makes them for cosworths '


'He sells them cosworths and scoobies.....'


Anyway, sure theyre the pec ones that have been tested at Intelligent Tuning and Bent at 280hp after not many miles, say this everytime they come up. However,as i wasnt physically in the car when it happened, or even know of the car, this isnt evidence. So i vote someone with alot of money to burn tries a set, then we'll all know if that one set was good or not.

I was reading an old thread where Scott with the Road converted coupe racer says the OEM rods are Forged, is this true ?

[roverdave]

I was reading an old thread where Scott with the Road converted coupe racer says the OEM rods are Forged, is this true ?

I read that last night aswell lol

ive asked the guy for contact details now so when he replys is there a trader that wants to take over? aslong as the people that have allready sed they want a set still gets them for £200 lol