The value of a VVC Coupe

[PMKeates]

Hi everyone, this is my first post here at Rovertech. I've been a lurker for some time but this is the only occasion thus far where I've felt the need to ask a question.

I'm currently interested in buying a Rover Coupe. In terms of the insurance/performance ratio, the VVC seems the better option, especially as it's available all the way up to 1999. I'm currently looking at one in particular, and was wondering if a few people could give their honest opinion on a value for the car, to give me a guide on what I should be paying.

It's a 97R, Rover Coupe VVC. FSH, just over 50,000 miles, cambelt at ~35,000. No determinable faults and in very good condition, bar the odd alloy mark and a small indent in the top of the wing.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks

[MarkCoupe]

Seems hard to value these cars at the mo, but id expect to see it privately for £2200 or Trade for £2750

[Stu]

Depends on the condition and the options.

One in good nick with full leathers and aircon would go for around £2.3k whereas a standard one in good nick around £2k.

[Cableguy]

Aha , a fellow overclocker.

Time to ditch the escorts eh ? (linch him boys)

TBH , and this is my personal opinion , i think VVC's are too overpriced, not because they arent worth it because they are as your kind of guaranteed good condition with them being availible up to just 5years old.

BUT its possible to find a good 220 nasp in just as good condition which wont be too much different to the power of the VVC, this car would cost less than half of the VVC easy.

Also if your just getting a VVC for cheaper insurance and would prefer one with the turbo , again its possible to find cheaper mint turbos that the saving couls go towards the insurance on.

[s0ck]

but then you can't stick your head out of the windows and shout, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

[Cableguy]

but then you can't stick your head out of the windows and shout, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

Cant do that in the VVC either ?

[s0ck]

ssh

[MarkCoupe]

Eh??

[Punx0r]

but then you can't stick your head out of the windows and shout, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

LOL, I'm going to do that this weekend

But seriously, about £2k. The VVCs hold their value better than the other engines. Insurance is group 9 (according to Norwich Union anyway).

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

[MarkCoupe]

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

Pff doesnt everyone know that?

VVC is alot different in how it works to Vtec, anyone that leans out of there non VTEC engined vehicle shouting "Vtec just kicked in Y0!" is going to look like a bit of a numpty.

[Gary]

Insurance group is at least 14 for the VVC Coupe.

[Sheaf]

IG is 15 I believe.

hell, my 1.6 SOHC is group 14

If the VVC is groupe 9, I bought the wrong car

[Cableguy]

ROVER COUPE VVC 1796cc 1996 1999 2 - Petrol Manual Inurance group 15

http://www.abi.org.uk/carinsurance/ListGroups.asp

[s0ck]

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

Pff doesnt everyone know that?

VVC is alot different in how it works to Vtec, anyone that leans out of there non VTEC engined vehicle shouting "Vtec just kicked in Y0!" is going to look like a bit of a numpty.

IIRC, VTEC is differentiated by the inlet AND exhaust cam profiling, whereas most of the others are just inlet cam phasing.

Even so, my neck would be firmly outstretched, shouting, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

ROVER COUPE VVC 1796cc 1996 1999 2 - Petrol Manual Inurance group 15

http://www.abi.org.uk/carinsurance/ListGroups.asp

That's shocking, considering the turbo is 17 and a huge wedge quicker!

[MarkCoupe]

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

Pff doesnt everyone know that?

VVC is alot different in how it works to Vtec, anyone that leans out of there non VTEC engined vehicle shouting "Vtec just kicked in Y0!" is going to look like a bit of a numpty.

IIRC, VTEC is differentiated by the inlet AND exhaust cam profiling, whereas most of the others are just inlet cam phasing.

Even so, my neck would be firmly outstretched, shouting, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

!

But it doesnt have VTEC. On DOHC VTEC it operates on both the inlet and exhaust cams.On SOHC its jus one cam. They work completely differently though.

[s0ck]

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

Pff doesnt everyone know that?

VVC is alot different in how it works to Vtec, anyone that leans out of there non VTEC engined vehicle shouting "Vtec just kicked in Y0!" is going to look like a bit of a numpty.

IIRC, VTEC is differentiated by the inlet AND exhaust cam profiling, whereas most of the others are just inlet cam phasing.

Even so, my neck would be firmly outstretched, shouting, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

!

But it doesnt have VTEC. On DOHC VTEC it operates on both the inlet and exhaust cams.On SOHC its jus one cam. They work completely differently though.

VTEC has almost become a generic name for any kind of variable cam timing so there's no need to pick through the above for inaccuracies and obviously, my first post was in complete jest

Just noticed your location; VTEC engine I presume? I guess that's why it's a touchy subject

[MarkCoupe]

FWIW the VVC varies the inlet cam duration between 220 and 295 degrees, and 21 and 58 degrees of overlap.

Pff doesnt everyone know that?

VVC is alot different in how it works to Vtec, anyone that leans out of there non VTEC engined vehicle shouting "Vtec just kicked in Y0!" is going to look like a bit of a numpty.

IIRC, VTEC is differentiated by the inlet AND exhaust cam profiling, whereas most of the others are just inlet cam phasing.

Even so, my neck would be firmly outstretched, shouting, "VTEC JUST KICKED IN, YO!"

!

But it doesnt have VTEC. On DOHC VTEC it operates on both the inlet and exhaust cams.On SOHC its jus one cam. They work completely differently though.

VTEC has almost become a generic name for any kind of variable cam timing so there's no need to pick through the above for inaccuracies and obviously, my first post was in complete jest

Just noticed your location; VTEC engine I presume? I guess that's why it's a touchy subject

No, no VTEC for me, its not a touchy subject i just dont want a crowd of young VVC owners bragging about how cool their VTEC is when they dont have it.

[Jonny 5]

VTEC has almost become a generic name for any kind of variable cam timing so there's no need to pick through the above for inaccuracies and obviously, my first post was in complete jest

Has it, last i knew VTEC is a hugely patented Honda Product.

[PMKeates]

Okay, it seems £2k is a pretty reasonable price for a nice one. My dad's been telling me that £1250 is about right - I thought that was low and this topic seems to have proven it.

While I would love a Coupe Turbo, the insurance is potentially damaging over the long term. My current insurer won't cover me on a Turbo so that requires a new policy at a cost of around £2000, whereas I can upgrade my current insurance to a VVC for just a few hundred. The VVC seems a good middle-car for me at the moment and I'm quite taken by the idea

[turboestate]

good on ya

[Cableguy]

Good one on RCOC for £1300

[PMKeates]

Good one on RCOC for £1300

Yeah, it looks quite a nice one. The only problem with it is that it's 250 miles away, so getting a look over it means a real effort While I'm not worried about how far I have to go for the right car, my dad, who wants to see any car before I buy it, wouldn't even consider it ever. I mean, he wouldn't make the 20 mile journey to Plumstead as it was "too far, don't be stupid"!

Thanks anyway though

[glennm255]

I paid £1800 for my VVC about 6 weeks ago. It's got full leather, a/c and FSH (although not all by Rover dealers). Oh and it had 71k on the clock. Needs a couple of minor scratches on the rear bumper sorting out, but other than that it's in pretty good condition. It does need an MOT and tax next month though

Hope this helps you mate.

[114gta]

BUT its possible to find a good 220 nasp in just as good condition which wont be too much different to the power of the VVC, this car would cost less than half of the VVC easy.

IMO, paying extra for the VVC is worth it - they're really ace engines, so smooth and economical but they pull really hard and rev on forever once they're spinning, and the sound is ace. If i had the money, mine would be a VVC.

[Punx0r]

How odd. I spoke to norwich union on two seperate occasions and gave them the reg of my vvc and both times they said it was group 9 Mind you, they did call it a 200 vi IS 16 valve or something.

£2k would be about top price. They can be had for less, depends quite a bit on your area (autotrader website is useful for finding out prices). Obviously anything wrong with the car will be taken into account in the price you pay.

250 miles is a bit far tbh. I drove ~150 miles each way to get my vit - but it did take 6 months to find. 20 miles is nothing. These cars aren't fiestas, there isn't exactly one on every street corner!

[biker18yr]

yep some ins. companys dont recongnise coupes. i found this.