To whoever it may concern........... (thieves in particular)

[RMcH]

To the tw@t who cloned my number plate after it was displayed on here - your plot has been rumbled after a measly week.

Next time try cloning the number plate of someone who doesnt drive an ANPR police traffic car on a daily basis. I just so happened to drive past my car in the car park last night, and the system alerted, thus giving me the heads up.

Everything is now sorted, and no harm done (to me) - took me a grand total of about 5 minutes of enquiries.

Your car is now marked as having stolen plates on it - so next time you are stealing petrol in Rugby, or whever else it is that you hide under your rock, expect the next ANPR car that passes you by to give you a pull.

£48's worth of petrol eh? Hate thieves - rank fairly highly amongst the scum of the earth.

[Beaker]

To the tw@t who cloned my number plate after it was displayed on here - your plot has been rumbled after a measly week.

How can you assume that though without evidence?

How do you know joe bloggs didn't copy it when you left your car in Tescos car park, or similiar situation?

[smile]

For your position... that seems to be quite a naive opinion.

[walshy.walsh]

For your position... that seems to be quite a naive opinion.

well said chris! for a relative newbie, it is not a good idea to start throwing accusations around, and if you are a "POLICE OFFICER" as you seem to be implying, you should know better than making unsubstantiated claims!

[lou123]

Now lads, dont take to offence on this but i have herd through the grapevine that this website is perfect for finding a modded Rover to pinch I no its probably hard to believe but if you think about it, is an obvious place to look. Rover parts etc are getting harder to find. Both of my coupe turbos were stolen, 1 had pics on here. The other one was years ago when i was 17.

I think, just in future, all you have to do is blank the plate out and maybe dont put an area in your profile. Hence mine only says Birmingham

I hope you catch the thieving T**t, i hate them too and they should have there hands chopped of for taking whats not theres.

[walshy.walsh]

all im saying lou, is that he has no idea whether the offender has come off here or not, it could be his next door neighbour for all he knows!

[agw_01]

Now lads, dont take to offence on this but i have herd through the grapevine that this website is perfect for finding a modded Rover to pinch

That's exactly why I hide my registration plate.

What you have on here is a full spec list of your car. Like you said Lou, Rover parts are getting harder and harder to come by... especially decent turbo engines.

While I do feel for the OP's position, I think it's a bit harsh coming on here and accusing people without proof.

[Scott]

Your car is now marked as having stolen plates on it

Wait a minute (im no columbo).

you drove past your own car, and it flagged up "car has been nicking petrol".

so therefor, how do you know the identity of the other car (the theif) responsible if it was displaying your cars plate at the time of the petrol grabbing incident?

Sounds like scare mongering to me? so all youll have from CCTV at the petrol station is a general description and colour of unknown vehicle?

[matthews2k]

im abit worried now ive posted sum pictures and left my reg on. Hope everthing is ok

[lou123]

I dont think there is need to worry. Just makesure you keep you plate hidden and your area. Its just a precaution thats all and should be told to everyone on here when putting pitcures up.

What you have on here is a full spec list of your car

Exactly my point. The car specs page has EVERYTHING you need to know about your car even down to what alarm you have on which is not the best thing to do in my eyes . I know it harsh to think people come on here and look at which cars to steal but have to realise that not everyone is an upstanding citizen. There are people that will go to any lengths to get what they want.

all im saying lou, is that he has no idea whether the offender has come off here or not, it could be his next door neighbour for all he knows!

Yeah, i realise that and your right in what you say but someone has just tried ripping the bloke off - your gonna jump your guns. Im sure he has a reason to believe that it was someone off here.

Like i said, i have been tipped off in the past about forums etc. Its not just this forum, its any forum Just keep your witts about ya and use your nuggins, thats all. Dont make it easy for people. I learned the hard way

[-Alex-]

I am no expert on these systems but guess that if it alerted on your car, at least one other police car had clocked the same reg recently - and all this gent is implying is that next time the police see a car with that reg-plate that isn't this gents, 0wnage shall occur.

Either way, its a bloody scummy thing to do. Pass me the hammers and bats!

[lou123]

Pass me the hammers and bats!

Here here

[doughts]

I will continue to post pictures of my car with the plates showing as they are showing when I drive it down the road. If someone wants to steal my car for bits it's because they know what they are after, therefore they know what they are looking for and will be able to tell that my car is a ti if I advertise the fact or not. Would also like to add that they best hope that it's the Police that catch them and not me if they try it.

[Beaker]

I dont think there is need to worry. Just makesure you keep you plate hidden and your area.

You see this is what I don't understand...Should we keep our plates hidden when we are driving too, god forbid someone might see our numberplate.

I can go down the supermarket now, pick a nice looking Rover 600 memorise their numberplate and put it on our own Rover 600.

[calibrax]

If you live in Scotland and the petrol was stolen in Rugby, then it's probably a fair assumption that the thief wasn't local to you.

But if he did get your plate from here, then by posting and saying what you have said, you've now alerted the thief that you are on to him, so he will simply change the plates, and will never be caught.

Not a very bright thing for a copper to do. And he'll probably now clone someone else's plates. Well done for that.

[lou123]

lol skatiechick thats a fair comment but to any tom inflatable dinghy and harry looking at your car going down the road or in the supermarket, its just a normal turbo or whatever. I think the point is more towards people who put a spec list mayb? No-one knows whats under the bonnet unless you tell them

Im not saying they wont steal it if you dont put the plate or spec list on here. All im saying is that it may reduce the chances

Would also like to add that they best hope that it's the Police that catch them and not me if they try it.

Trust me, i am exactly the same when it comes to this and if i would have caught them there would have been trouble. I had a few tip offs and there were a few visits but nothing in stone. The problem is, you cant always catch the thief thats done this too you, no matter what you do. So if you can put extra measures in place to ensure your car is safe then you minimise the chance of something happening to it. DOes that make any sence lol ?

[Craig]

To the tw@t who cloned my number plate after it was displayed on here

I think I can see how you reached the conclusion - Rovertech was the only forum you posted pictures on ... etc. But did you consider the possibility that the offending scumbag might have happened upon the pictures simply by searching your image host's site? And was Rovertech really the only site you posted pictures on? You didn't post any on the CTR owners' forum?

It's quite a jump to reach that conclusion, really, isn't it?

I understand your annoyance, but your implication that there are thieves here just does not sit well, especially given the alternatives above.

[walshy.walsh]

TBH, why should we believe anything this guy says anyway? no disrespect, but if he really was an officer, he would have thought about this a bit more before A;posting pics with his reg number on, and B;throwing about wild accusations! therefore, i have no reason to believe anything else he says! who's to say that it wasnt him that did the drive off, and is tryuing to dissipate guilt!!

[lou123]

lol okay okay calm youself lol

[HOPPY]

So if it flagged your car reg up how come you didn't pull it up.

ANPR will only flag up if something was iffy about the original car...

Right CAR A: RED METRO B123 CDE all legit not reported stolen etc.etc

Right CAR B BLACK ESCORT B123 CDE CLONED REG ETC,ETC

ANPR sees CAR B BUT wont flag it as it shows up legit

[Scott]

what he's saying is that his car was inaccurately reported as being dodgy, when obviously he knows that he hasnt stolen 48quid of petrol, and that his plate is incorrectly tagged as being dodgy.

what i find hard to believe is how the offenders car (lets assume a silver corsa) is now 'tagged' unless of course some 'investigation' took place to find the cars original plate (hard to believe in 5mins).

[calibrax]

So if it flagged your car reg up how come you didn't pull it up.

ANPR will only flag up if something was iffy about the original car...

Right CAR A: RED METRO B123 CDE all legit not reported stolen etc.etc

Right CAR B BLACK ESCORT B123 CDE CLONED REG ETC,ETC

ANPR sees CAR B BUT wont flag it as it shows up legit

ANPR only looks at the plate... it has a reported petrol theft against the plate... it doesnt know there are two cars with the same plate, that's for the officer to find out. As it was his car, he knew he hadn't nicked any petrol...

[calibrax]

what i find hard to believe is how the offenders car (lets assume a silver corsa) is now 'tagged' unless of course some 'investigation' took place to find the cars original plate (hard to believe in 5mins).

Like I said, the plate is what they will look for. But by creating this thread, the thief could now be aware that he can't continue using the plate, so he'll switch it.

If the thief had any sense at all, he'd steal a plate from an identical car to the one he's driving, that way if an ANPR vehicle is behind him, then the officer will see the right car make/model for the plate and won't pull him over.

[HOPPY]

So if it flagged your car reg up how come you didn't pull it up.

ANPR will only flag up if something was iffy about the original car...

Right CAR A: RED METRO B123 CDE all legit not reported stolen etc.etc

Right CAR B BLACK ESCORT B123 CDE CLONED REG ETC,ETC

ANPR sees CAR B BUT wont flag it as it shows up legit

ANPR only looks at the plate... it has a reported petrol theft against the plate... it doesnt know there are two cars with the same plate, that's for the officer to find out. As it was his car, he knew he hadn't nicked any petrol...

kin l I know that I was trying to explain for those who dont know about ANPR

[HOPPY]

[darwin]

I can go down the supermarket now, pick a nice looking Rover 600 memorise their numberplate and put it on our own Rover 600.

Yes but why bother , when some people have their regs advertised on a forum the whole world can see , why bother going to a carpark in the hope you might see a similar car of the same colour , and why run of the risk of the owner of the original car seeing your cloned car driving past him one day . Just clone the plates of a car the EXACT same spec as yours in a different part of the country without leaving the comfort of your own home .
I dont care if this story is BS , I'll be keeping (most) of my plate hidden .

[RMcH]

To clarify for some of you;

I live in West Lothian, Scotland.
Whoever cloned my plate appears to live in or near Rugby, England - as thats where he/she stole £48's worth of petrol.

I am assuming that my plate has therefore been either taken off the internet (ie here), or someone has seen me driving about and noted the plate at the time. I think that its far more likely to have been taken from the net, rather than someone travelling hundreds of miles to do the dirty deed, instead of simply noting a local plate for their cloned car.

Only an assumption of course - but im sure you will agree, a fair one.

I am not accusing any members of this site of cloning my plate. I am suggesting that someone with a stolen/illegal Rover 600 has visited the internet and taken the plate from my picture.

Doesnt matter now anyway - as they have been rumbled. and as said in my original post, sorted in a mere 5 minutes.

But if he did get your plate from here, then by posting and saying what you have said, you've now alerted the thief that you are on to him, so he will simply change the plates, and will never be caught.

Or maybe i would just prefer that he used someone else's plates - thus mentioning on the web??

[calibrax]

maybe i would just prefer that he used someone else's plates - thus mentioning on the web??

I assume you have submitted your findings to the police, so you wouldn't have been liable for any further petrol thefts or other offences. But now you've effectively 'passed the buck' to some other poor sod who will have his plates cloned, and also reduced the chances of the thief being caught. But hey, as long as you're ok, then to hell with anyone else, right?

Typical of the 'I'm all right Jack' mentality these days... there's just no consideration for others. Not the sort of attitude I'd expect to see in a copper, to be honest.

[RMcH]

maybe i would just prefer that he used someone else's plates - thus mentioning on the web??

I assume you have submitted your findings to the police, so you wouldn't have been liable for any further petrol thefts or other offences. But now you've effectively 'passed the buck' to some other poor sod who will have his plates cloned, and also reduced the chances of the thief being caught. But hey, as long as you're ok, then to hell with anyone else, right?

Typical of the 'I'm all right Jack' mentality these days... there's just no consideration for others. Not the sort of attitude I'd expect to see in a copper, to be honest.

The relevant info has been submitted to the reporting officer in Rugby, the Police National Computer, the ANPR database and the respective intelligence units. Is that enough for you, or would you expect me to personally travel down to Rugby and find the culprit myself?

I may well be a cop, but im also the victim here - this happened to my car and it has NOTHING to do with my profession. I am just lucky that i am in a position where i found out after one week of the plates being used and am in a position to rectify the issue.

If your car had been stolen or your house broken into, would you expect me to have a go at you telling you to find the suspects yourself? No didnt think so - so why do you expect me to deal with it? I am a cop from a different country FFS. It is being dealt with by CID down in Rugby.

Personally i couldnt care less what you, or anyone else on here thinks. I posted this thread for two reasons;

1. To let the tw@t who cloned my plate know that his plan his been partially foiled

2. To alert the forum to that fact that there is a possibilty that someone is viewing the forum with a view to cloning number plates

What you do with that information is up to you. If you want to moan at my actions as a victim / cop then go ahead - couldnt give two $hits If on the other hand, you perhaps want to take something from it, then great - i may have prevented someone else from ending up in my situation.

[Raistlin]

RMcH, Easy, Tiger

If you make a statement or express an opinion in a public forum you do so in the full awareness that you may expect replies either supporting or challenging your point of view.

If you don't want to court controversy, then don't couch your comments in a controversial or provocative manner.

[RMcH]

RMcH, Easy, Tiger

If you make a statement or express an opinion in a public forum you do so in the full awareness that you may expect replies either supporting or challenging your point of view.

If you don't want to court controversy, then don't couch your comments in a controversial or provocative manner.

Im perfectly easy thanks - but like i said i couldnt really care what people think of my actions. As you said, its a public forum so am perfectly entitled to express my opinions - whether they sound controversial or not.

Perhaps in future i shouldnt bother alerting your forum to the fact that there is a possibilty that it may be being misused by thieves. Like i said above, i posted for two reasons - one of which was to maybe prevent this happening to someone else.

If anyone has any issues with my actions then quite frankly - tough. Personally i cant think of anything else i could do under the circumstances, other than travel to Rugby and camp out at the Leicester Road petrol station waiting for my number plate to pass me by.

To the positive replies i received - thanks. At least some people have a level head on them.

[Neil F]

RMcH,

if you are a 'police officer', I'm sure your one of the one's who gives the police a bad name, you appear to be of the "I'm better than you, crowd", you're not a special/volunteer are you?

If you don't blank out your numberplate on your pictures, surely your taking responsibility that it may be seen by someone with less than sound morals on the internet?

Neil

[Craig]

you're not a special/volunteer are you?

Don't be silly, Neil. You don't get special needs police officers ...

[Neil F]

Craig,

Neil F wrote:
you're not a special/volunteer are you?


Don't be silly, Neil. You don't get special needs police officers ...

I beg to differ, some people may say that some officers have the 'special' need to be complete ar5es...

Cheers

Neil

[calibrax]

There are very few people on this forum who don't already blank out their number plates.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion - but as has been said, if you post a strong opinion on a forum, expect to get replies. Not everyone will agree with you...