New T16 turbo engine

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:33 pm

Hi all,

It appears my 420T engine is interally fecked. I thought the oil burning and rattling was the turbo, but upon changing it the car is still bad

Tomorrow Im going to see my mechanic and we'll check the plugs etc to work out whats wrong.

Is there a place where I can buy a brand new engine? I dont fancy getting an old engine off ebay which could be nackered and Im willing to spend more than those engines go for anyway.

Rover themselves will definately be too expensive though.

Any input on what I should do?

thanks

Dave

Post by **Marty** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 1:46 pm

Buy a secon hand one of ebay and re-con it with forged internals

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:32 pm

a second hand engine isnt that much to worry about to be honest.

if you were planning on getting bigger power later on, then id consider a rebuild with forged pistons.

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:47 pm

Thanks for the suggestions, but Im not planning on running more power, just want the car to run properly and get me from A-B reliably.

I guess the dilemma is, do I fix this engine or get a different one. There was a brand new one on ebay for Â£700ish a while ago, that would be nice.

My worries about a second hand one is it could have the same issues, could have head gasket issues etc.
They are all going to be high mileage - possibly higher than mine which is on 107k

will-220GSiTurbo · Post by **will-220GSiTurbo** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:04 pm

havnt the sports car people- robin hood sports cars got loads of k & t series engines for sale off the shelf?

couperob · Post by **couperob** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:14 pm

According to Practical Performance Car mag (July 06) Robin Hood sportscars have got brand new T16 turbo engines complete with new Turbo for Â£1000. Also got normally aspirated for Â£750 and FWD gearboxes for Â£250 or Â£350 with LSD again new. Can contact them on 01623 422286 or email info@robinhoodsportscars.co.uk. They are based in Mansfield near Nottingham.

Beaker · Post by **Beaker** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:14 pm

from an article I read it said that.

Post by **IrishRover** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 8:24 pm

If you are defintely wanting to get a new engine, I recommend Vege - www.vegeuk.com (the website seems to be under construction at the moment)

Great price and service.

See here for contact details and more info:
http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=30867

D@VID · Post by **D@VID** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:46 am

IrishRover wrote:If you are defintely wanting to get a new engine, I recommend Vege - www.vegeuk.com (the website seems to be under construction at the moment)

You didn't say how much?

DaveR · Post by **DaveR** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:03 am

Thanks for the info guys, sounds like a couple of possibilities there.

Im going to see the mechanic so we can diagnose whats wrong with this engine and then Ill tell him the options and see what way I should go.

Post by **IrishRover** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:04 pm

D@VID wrote:
IrishRover wrote:If you are defintely wanting to get a new engine, I recommend Vege - www.vegeuk.com (the website seems to be under construction at the moment)
You didn't say how much?

As far as I remember it was Â£1600 with a Â£400 rebate after they collected my old engine (so Â£1200 all in).

Beaker · Post by **Beaker** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:23 pm

This has just come on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rover-220-420-620 ... dZViewItem

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:14 am

IrishRover wrote:If you are defintely wanting to get a new engine, I recommend Vege - www.vegeuk.com (the website seems to be under construction at the moment)

Great price and service.

See here for contact details and more info:
http://www.rt2468abcd.r8technology.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=30867

Aren't Vege just selling rebuilt and cleaned up engines?

Sure thats what rover told me when i enquired years ago, as thats the place they said Rover got them from.

Post by **Punx0r** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:21 pm

Yeah, they're reconditioned

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:39 pm

Punx0r wrote:Yeah, they're reconditioned

Thats what i thought.

Pointless then IMO paying Â£1600 for an engine that has just been polished and rebuilt. Can be done much cheaper else where.

420gazza · Post by **420gazza** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:16 pm

theres 1 just shy of Â£900 on ebay at the mo, brand new too

RS RUDEBOY · Post by **RS RUDEBOY** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:32 pm

isnt that the one skatiechik has just posted ^^^^^ ?

420gazza · Post by **420gazza** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:02 pm

yeah just noticed

limpabit · Post by **limpabit** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:57 pm

Skatiechik wrote:This has just come on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rover-220-420-620 ... dZViewItem

I think these might be training engines (you need to check). I've got one. But stripted it down to check. Found a few things like oils seals in wrong way round.

Post by **Punx0r** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:59 pm

sam w · Post by **sam w** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:38 pm

IrishRover wrote:
D@VID wrote:
IrishRover wrote:If you are defintely wanting to get a new engine, I recommend Vege - www.vegeuk.com (the website seems to be under construction at the moment)
You didn't say how much?
As far as I remember it was Â£1600 with a Â£400 rebate after they collected my old engine (so Â£1200 all in).

How bloody much

Post by **IrishRover** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:37 am

Â£1200 all in, and I don't consider that expensive for what it is.
It's not just a quick polish and bolt up again. They refer to it as "remanufactured", not reconditioned, and they're very particular about this because they say that what they do goes a lot further than a simple rebuild. Of course Rover are going to diss them because even if you can buy a new engine from them (which you can't) the list price was over 5,000 euros when I checked with them. I could order it I was told, but I may be waiting months or for ever for it to be in stock.

That motor off ebay is 300 quid cheaper yes, but it doesn't come with a guarantee and you don't know how long it's been sitting about.

The extra 300 quid buys you a year's guarantee which includes paying for any labour costs in the fitting of a replacement engine. Vege's customer service and after sales service is very good, and you probably won't realise how valuable that is if you never end up needing it!

Gary · Post by **Gary** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:56 pm

For Â£1200 you could buy a second handengine from somewhere and have forged rods put in as well as the rebuild.

Then you'd have a strong engine for the same price.

Post by **IrishRover** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:20 pm

Ok, maybe you could?

Another thing to consider though is that if you are in a position where you need an engine as soon as possible you don't have to search scrapyards for one and then have the time spent having it rebuilt (or rebuilding it yourself if you can).

These are available right away and are delivered via TNT quickly and very well packaged to anywhere in the UK (or Europe).